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Once again you come up with something I never said.

I never claimed or stated that De la Hoya is equal in size to Bernard Hopkins. I may have alluded that Oscar is of a more similar build to a middleweight than the Welters and Light Welters he is calling out, but I never claimed he was equal in size to Bernard Hopkins.

Oscar claimed last year he was the Junior Middleweight Champion of the world. A title that he won having dropped back down from Middleweight. Do you find it strange that Oscar has not faced an opponent that was previously active at 154 since 2003 when he faced Shane Mosely?
Why not fight a Light Middleweight rather than pick on smaller me.
For me a bully is someone who utilises their natural physical advantage to pick on opponents of a lesser physical size and obtaining an advantage befor training ever begins. Is this not what Oscar is doing?

Any fight at 154 appeals to me more than Cotto/DLH. The Cotto DLH fight has no relevance. If DLH wins is he Welter Champion, despite having not competed against anyone in that weight class this decade? (?)
The only relevance this has is to Oscars pockets.
Well you did say "Equal his size" i don't really know how i could have took that any other way. ODLH has moved up all the way up from Super Featherweight fighting bigger men than himself, so i think its wrong to call him a bully. I don't think its wrong he hasn't fought a Light Middleweight since 2003, for number of reasons, 1 he has been semi retired. 2 he was fighting Middleweight's so i think we can let him off there can't we ?? 3 there hasn't been a really appealing name at Jr Middleweight.

Like i said to you before who do you expect ODLH to fight at Jr Middleweight ?? of course ODLH is fighting for money but so do all boxers, but there isn't a single fight at Jr Middleweight that appeals to me at all. ODLH has probably only 2 fights left in him so he wants to go out on a high, so he is looking for the biggest names. Which Jr Middleweight division just doesn't have, i can't believe that your having a go at ODLH for wanting to fight the most appealing names.
In all fairness to the moving up from Super Featherweight Oscar was 19 at that time. He was not yet fully grown. Yes he fought in a grown mans sport but the body does not stop maturing until about 24 or 25 years old before it sets in at its full size potential. He was also an inch shorter then.

This si why we rarely see fighters stay in the weight class they started in.

Pacquiao started at 110lbs. Less I think but he was also 17 at that time. Now he is 20+lbs heavier. Having fully matured

Since he has filled out girth wise and grown so you can not really count the Super Featherweight time as moving up. Now if he moved up at 27 or so that would be mighty impressive. In truth you would only count his time moving up from about 140lbs.
Your missing the point thats not what i was implying, i was trying to explain how ODLH has moved through the weight classes fighting bigger men than himself, so i just think its wrong to call him a bully.

Also good post Fenster some rep coming your way.