Now we're talking !
Lets have it! Great fight . I cant think of a fight I wana see more really. Proper fight . No messing . Two young , powerful , strong guys . Make it happen .
Now we're talking !
Lets have it! Great fight . I cant think of a fight I wana see more really. Proper fight . No messing . Two young , powerful , strong guys . Make it happen .
Pavlik has a lot to gain. If he fights and KOs the slow moving Kessler. He can demand Joe fight him and Joe's fans will demand it also. Kessler will give him a good fight though, but I think Kelly hits him with everything but the kitchen sink.
Kessler never down Amatuer or pro so if Pavlik could stop him i would be very impressed.
I cringe when I see Mundine's name in amongst these when discussing this division,,, as I know he will never fight anyone worth mentioned at 168, or any other division for that matter...
It's like still mentioning Floyd when listing out the strengths of the WW division.
No fault of yours my man Hammer... You know who I blame..![]()
Mundine cannot be mentioned but Froch and Inkin can?
Mundine has fought Kessler, Ottke, Siaca, Soliman and Green at 168. Are they not names worth mentioning at 168?
Who has Froch fought, or Inkin for that matter? No one nearly as good as those just mentioned.
Sure Mundine has taken easy defences lately but u cannot deny he has fought some top guys at 168, and its only Kessler of the top guys that ever calls him out.
Froch's best opponents are Robin PORNSTAR Reid and Tatesyovan both not ranked on the top 40 in the world.
I know i'll probably get negative comments from the Mundine haters, but as i've said before dont let his out of ring antics (which i hate) cloud your judgement of his ability. To say he shouldnt be mentioned in the top guys at 168 but Froch and Inkin should is ridiculous, Mundine has done much more then both these guys. Bute fights nobodies and washed up fighters but does not get half the criticism Mundine does.
Wow, this fight completely went under the radar for me. I didn't even consider it until this thread...It's an awesome prospect. Hope it happens. No idea who would come out on top. Two solid guys who don't fuck around
Some news here from Bob Arum,so pehaps it will Be Kessler or Abraham
Michael Marley’s Boxing Confidential – News, Analysis, and Commentary
Super Middleweight also acknowledge as Kessler's Kingdom when Calzaghe has retire
Someone mentioned a fight between them a couple of months ago and it was an immediate winner for me also...
In fact, someone actually dug up that original thread, and I saw that I had actually tipped Kessler to come out on top of this... But recently I have felt Pavlik would have the upper hand...
I've been watching more of Pavlik recently though, so i'll have to go back and watch a few Kessler fights again, and really weigh it up before prediction time.. If this fight even happens...
LOL, you can take Inkin and Froch out as well that's fine...
You know what, i'm with you on Mundine's skills... A lot of people underrate him, and most of the time he is summed up by his loss to Kessler.. He has improved hugely since then...
My critisizm comes purely from the fact that he has fought Soliman 3 times, while there is a whole division of good fighters that he should be actively chasing.. Any fighter on the planet that has his talent, but continues to fight B class fighters over and over will earn no respect from me.... It could be a case of bad timing, bad management, whatever.. But how many years does a fighter stay in his prime?? Him and his camp have to start making things happen...
Until he's on a plane over to the US to fight some of these names, I refuse to mention him alongside them...
That's where i'm speaking from...
Anyway i'm repping ya because you made good points that I only want to add to... I just have a personal beef with Mundine also as he's Australia's number 1 prospect, and I so want to get behind him, but he doesn't give his fans, or any Australians anything to work with....
Thats true but Id say the best of the bunch is Kess - Pav .
Kess was beaten on experience vs Joe. Thats all. We dont know if Pav would have doen any better . This is a real fight and it would say alot about Pav if he accepted the challenge. He was chasing Joe but didnt realise he was open to challenges. Now the hunter has become the hunted . GO KESSLER !
power-Pavlik
conditioning- Pavlik
work rate- Pavlik
defense- ? Pavlik has very much improved since Miranda.
ring control- Pavlik
heart- Pavlik
I see Kessler wanting to stand in and trade and getting stopped in the process. I feel Kessler should fight Pantera first. If he can get by that monster( I dont think he can) then he should go after Pavlik. Kessler is coming off a lose. Pavlik is tearing it up. To me it seems more risky for Kessler in this fight.
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