Will Hatton be an all time great?

[gudnite vienna]

I think this basically answers your question gudnite vienna.

yeh you can say all this about him beating fighters over the hill but look at some one like Cotto, his best wins are Mosley and Judah, and guess what both of them are on the decline!!

But Miguel Cotto still has a lot left to do in his career where as Hatton doesn't thats the difference.

you cant really say that tsyu or castllio were shot, because to be frank you just dont know.. Its very unfair to discredit hattons win over tsyu, he was world champion and a p4p fighter, simple as!

[ICB]

yeh you can say all this about him beating fighters over the hill but look at some one like Cotto, his best wins are Mosley and Judah, and guess what both of them are on the decline!!

But Miguel Cotto still has a lot left to do in his career where as Hatton doesn't thats the difference.

you cant really say that tsyu or castllio were shot, because to be frank you just dont know.. Its very unfair to discredit hattons win over tsyu, he was world champion and a p4p fighter, simple as!

I can say Castillo was shot just look at his last fight prior to the Hatton one and tell me he didn't look like a shot fighter ?? Castillo had no business at Jr Welterweight in the first place and he didn't deserve the win against Ngoudjo, as for Tszyu i told you i didn't want to debate this and you brung it up again when i never mentioned Tszyu i was on about Miguel Cotto. But since you keep brining it up i never said Tszyu was a shot fighter but he was past his best, he was 35 years old, he had injuries prior to the bout, and he only had like 3 fights in 4 years or something similar to that. No doubt it was a good win for Hatton but Tszyu was past his best days and im sorry nothing you can say, can make me think otherwise.

[gudnite vienna]

But Miguel Cotto still has a lot left to do in his career where as Hatton doesn't thats the difference.

you cant really say that tsyu or castllio were shot, because to be frank you just dont know.. Its very unfair to discredit hattons win over tsyu, he was world champion and a p4p fighter, simple as!

I can say Castillo was shot just look at his last fight prior to the Hatton one and tell me he didn't look like a shot fighter ?? Castillo had no business at Jr Welterweight in the first place and he didn't deserve the win against Ngoudjo, as for Tszyu i told you i didn't want to debate this and you brung it up again when i never mentioend Tszyu i was on about Miguel Cotto. But since you keep brining it up i never said Tszyu was a shot fighter but he was past his best, he was 35 years old, he had injuries prior to the bout, and he only had like 3 fights in 4 years or something similar to that. No doubt it was a good win for Hatton but Tszyu was past his best days and im sorry nothing you can say, can make me think otherwise.

haha dont take things so personal... the bookies has Tsyu as the favourite in that fight, and as we all know the very rarely get it wrong so dont think he was that faded really..

[ICB]

you cant really say that tsyu or castllio were shot, because to be frank you just dont know.. Its very unfair to discredit hattons win over tsyu, he was world champion and a p4p fighter, simple as!

I can say Castillo was shot just look at his last fight prior to the Hatton one and tell me he didn't look like a shot fighter ?? Castillo had no business at Jr Welterweight in the first place and he didn't deserve the win against Ngoudjo, as for Tszyu i told you i didn't want to debate this and you brung it up again when i never mentioend Tszyu i was on about Miguel Cotto. But since you keep brining it up i never said Tszyu was a shot fighter but he was past his best, he was 35 years old, he had injuries prior to the bout, and he only had like 3 fights in 4 years or something similar to that. No doubt it was a good win for Hatton but Tszyu was past his best days and im sorry nothing you can say, can make me think otherwise.

haha dont take things so personal... the bookies has Tsyu as the favourite in that fight, and as we all know the very rarely get it wrong so dont think he was that faded really..

I haven't taken anything personally i just didn't want to debate this Tszyu situation again, because i have debated it 100's of times. Thats the basis for your argument that the bookie's had Tszyu as the favorite ?? they have been wrong many times, they had Tszyu as the favorite purely because Hatton had never shown the kind of form in previous fights which he did against Tszyu, plus Hatton had never been in with a world class fighter before the Tszyu bout.

[HattonTheHammer]

But Miguel Cotto still has a lot left to do in his career where as Hatton doesn't thats the difference.

you cant really say that tsyu or castllio were shot, because to be frank you just dont know.. Its very unfair to discredit hattons win over tsyu, he was world champion and a p4p fighter, simple as!

I can say Castillo was shot just look at his last fight prior to the Hatton one and tell me he didn't look like a shot fighter ?? Castillo had no business at Jr Welterweight in the first place and he didn't deserve the win against Ngoudjo, as for Tszyu i told you i didn't want to debate this and you brung it up again when i never mentioend Tszyu i was on about Miguel Cotto. But since you keep brining it up i never said Tszyu was a shot fighter but he was past his best, he was 35 years old, he had injuries prior to the bout, and he only had like 3 fights in 4 years or something similar to that. No doubt it was a good win for Hatton but Tszyu wasn't at his best and im sorry nothing you can say, can make me think otherwise.

Im quite sure if you were willing to be this picky you would also have to throw into question a number of world class fighters and previous opposition.

What people never mention with ricky is the way he was knocking out guys who had been the distance with the likes of tszyu/mitchell 2 years before he got the shot at Tszyu

What you never hear is how well fighters like juan urango and collazo have done since being beaten by hatton and how the apparently shot castillo who didnt wanna fight has gone on to fight since then already!!

[ICB]

you cant really say that tsyu or castllio were shot, because to be frank you just dont know.. Its very unfair to discredit hattons win over tsyu, he was world champion and a p4p fighter, simple as!

I can say Castillo was shot just look at his last fight prior to the Hatton one and tell me he didn't look like a shot fighter ?? Castillo had no business at Jr Welterweight in the first place and he didn't deserve the win against Ngoudjo, as for Tszyu i told you i didn't want to debate this and you brung it up again when i never mentioend Tszyu i was on about Miguel Cotto. But since you keep brining it up i never said Tszyu was a shot fighter but he was past his best, he was 35 years old, he had injuries prior to the bout, and he only had like 3 fights in 4 years or something similar to that. No doubt it was a good win for Hatton but Tszyu wasn't at his best and im sorry nothing you can say, can make me think otherwise.

Im quite sure if you were willing to be this picky you would also have to throw into question a number of world class fighters and previous opposition.

What people never mention with ricky is the way he was knocking out guys who had been the distance with the likes of tszyu/mitchell 2 years before he got the shot at Tszyu

What you never hear is how well fighters like juan urango and collazo have done since being beaten by hatton and how the apparently shot castillo who didnt wanna fight has gone on to fight since then already!!

Urango got a robbery decision when he won the title, anyone who watched the fight knew he shouldn't of even had the title he was a paper champion. And all Urango has done since the Hatton fight is beat the goodish Vilches, again what has Collazo done since the Hatton fight ?? he got dominated by Mosley and in his last fight went the distance with a 9-4 fighter.

[gudnite vienna]

I can say Castillo was shot just look at his last fight prior to the Hatton one and tell me he didn't look like a shot fighter ?? Castillo had no business at Jr Welterweight in the first place and he didn't deserve the win against Ngoudjo, as for Tszyu i told you i didn't want to debate this and you brung it up again when i never mentioend Tszyu i was on about Miguel Cotto. But since you keep brining it up i never said Tszyu was a shot fighter but he was past his best, he was 35 years old, he had injuries prior to the bout, and he only had like 3 fights in 4 years or something similar to that. No doubt it was a good win for Hatton but Tszyu wasn't at his best and im sorry nothing you can say, can make me think otherwise.

Im quite sure if you were willing to be this picky you would also have to throw into question a number of world class fighters and previous opposition.

What people never mention with ricky is the way he was knocking out guys who had been the distance with the likes of tszyu/mitchell 2 years before he got the shot at Tszyu

What you never hear is how well fighters like juan urango and collazo have done since being beaten by hatton and how the apparently shot castillo who didnt wanna fight has gone on to fight since then already!!

Urango got a robbery decision when he won the title, anyone who watched the fight knew he shouldn't of even had the title he was a paper champion. And all Urango has done since the Hatton fight is beat the goodish Vilches, again what has Collazo done since the Hatton fight ?? he got dominated by Mosley and in his last fight went the distance with a 9-4 fighter.

yep but callazo hurt his hand in the mosley fight.... kind ov unfair.

[ICB]

Im quite sure if you were willing to be this picky you would also have to throw into question a number of world class fighters and previous opposition.

What people never mention with ricky is the way he was knocking out guys who had been the distance with the likes of tszyu/mitchell 2 years before he got the shot at Tszyu

What you never hear is how well fighters like juan urango and collazo have done since being beaten by hatton and how the apparently shot castillo who didnt wanna fight has gone on to fight since then already!!

Urango got a robbery decision when he won the title, anyone who watched the fight knew he shouldn't of even had the title he was a paper champion. And all Urango has done since the Hatton fight is beat the goodish Vilches, again what has Collazo done since the Hatton fight ?? he got dominated by Mosley and in his last fight went the distance with a 9-4 fighter.

yep but callazo hurt his hand in the mosley fight.... kind ov unfair.

Collazo had 1 maybe 2 decent rounds Mosley adjusted and beat down on Collazo and knocked him down end of, there was too much made out of Collazo's injury.

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Urango got a robbery decision when he won the title, anyone who watched the fight knew he shouldn't of even had the title he was a paper champion. And all Urango has done since the Hatton fight is beat the goodish Vilches, again what has Collazo done since the Hatton fight ?? he got dominated by Mosley and in his last fight went the distance with a 9-4 fighter.

yep but callazo hurt his hand in the mosley fight.... kind ov unfair.

Collazo had 1 maybe 2 decent rounds Mosley adjusted and beat down on Collazo and knocked him down end of, there was too much made out of Collazo's injury.

Too much made?

He fractured his thumb and tore 3 ligaments in his hand....in the 2nd round.

Up until that stage he was having a lot of success with the straight left. He landed it numerous times. After the point of injury he stopped throwing punches.

It's ok praising Mosley for adjusting but you have to ask yourself, what adjustment did he really have to make after Collazo severley damaged the hand that he was having so much success with.

[Violent Demise]

The answer is a simple no. Hatton will never, ever be an All Time Great. I don't care what his groupies and concubines say

[C-Lo]

The answer is a simple no. Hatton will never, ever be an All Time Great. I don't care what his groupies and concubines say

Doesn't get any more succinct than that!

[THE THIRD MAN]

If Hatton fights and beats the smaller Pacman does he really get the recognition he seeks? I don't believe he retires after two more fights anyway, he is not yet 30 and still to much money in it for him to give it away just yet.
Do what Tszyu did and unify the title at 140lb, you can only beat who they put in front of you and if that includes Pacquaio then his legacy is assured.