Will Hatton be an all time great?

[ono]

Mayweather badly broke his hand against Hernandez and still dominated him, its quite common in boxing to have hand injuries. As i said too much was made out of the injury Mosley did adjust and you can clearly see that if you watch the fight closely, and he dominated Collazo because he is the better fighter end of. Its funny how some fans take injuries into account for some fighters and not others, i mean i never here anyone talking about Tony Tucker breaking his right hand after the 4th round against Mike Tyson, but up and until that point he was clearly winning the fight.

Yes but Mayweather is a much better fighter than Hernandez. We both know Mayweather is a very very special fighter.

I don't think Mosley had to adjust to anything. Collazo stopped throwing his left hand. I know too much can be made of injury but if it becomes too painful for a fighter to throw a punch, then the injury is obviously significant enough to offer an explanation as to why the fight was so one-sided.

He deserves another title shot. He's had pretty bad luck at the top level.

Luis Collazo vs Andre Berto is the fight i want to see.

Yeah that would be an interesting fight.

Collazo has an awkward style and he is skilled. For that reason, i don't think many of the belt holders will be in a rush to face him.

[ICB]

Hatton's not even a great fighter much less an ATG. Hattons just a good fighter, and will never be an ATG period. I dont care that he's a likeable guy he's just not good enough to be on the ATG list like Sugar Ray Robinson, Ali, Joe frazier, Willie Pep, Archie Moore, Rocky Marciano, Pernell Whittaker, Tommy Hearns, SRL, Duran, Hagler, Bernard Hopkins, AAron Pryor, Alexis Arguello, Azumah Nelson , Finito Lopez. Are you guys starting to understand now. Hattons name and even Floyd Mayweather's name should never be mentioned with the names of the guys i just mentioned period.

I find it rather odd you'd have Hopkins up there but not Mayweather.

Well Hopkins has accomplished more than mayweather period. Theres still alot left for Mayweather to do but he refuses to do so because he usually prefers the easier fights. The only reason he retired before fighting Oscar is how would it look if he fought Oscar then avoided the winner of Cotto/Margarito ? this guy does not want to fight the best guys in his division he would rather retire. Sorry but the guys on my ATG list also brought alot of heart to the game.

How has Hopkins achieved more than Mayweather ?? Mayweather has won 5 titles in 5 weight divisions, and im sure if you list all there best wins Mayweather comes out on top. But thats your opinion and your entitled to it but i disagree.

[sonny78]

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Hatton's not even a great fighter much less an ATG. Hattons just a good fighter, and will never be an ATG period. I dont care that he's a likeable guy he's just not good enough to be on the ATG list like Sugar Ray Robinson, Ali, Joe frazier, Willie Pep, Archie Moore, Rocky Marciano, Pernell Whittaker, Tommy Hearns, SRL, Duran, Hagler, Bernard Hopkins, AAron Pryor, Alexis Arguello, Azumah Nelson , Finito Lopez. Are you guys starting to understand now. Hattons name and even Floyd Mayweather's name should never be mentioned with the names of the guys i just mentioned period.
I find it rather odd you'd have Hopkins up there but not Mayweather.

Well Hopkins has accomplished more than mayweather period. Theres still alot left for Mayweather to do but he refuses to do so because he usually prefers the easier fights. The only reason he retired before fighting Oscar is how would it look if he fought Oscar then avoided the winner of Cotto/Margarito ? this guy does not want to fight the best guys in his division he would rather retire. Sorry but the guys on my ATG list also brought alot of heart to the game.

In The UK Hatton is and will be an all time great around the world this will vary

Mayweather is an ATG and belongs in that list you cant deny him because he didn't fight Cotto / Tony you have to look at what he has done his whole career 5 titles in 5 weight divisions gets you on an ATG great list period

[RP33]

I think Hatton will definitely be remembered as a great fighter.. but as far as ATG, i don't know..

a while back i was going to make a thread about this, and never did.. either way, i'm probably going to get flamed for this, but just remember, this is only MY opinion..

After watching the Tszyu fight, after everybody hyped up how good Ricky was that night, and how it was his defining fight and all that stuff, i had mixed feelings.. I mean, he definitely was amazing that night, and was relentless as all hell, but did you see the scoring? I don't remember it exactly but i think at least 1 judge had Tszyu winning, one had it even, and one had Hatton winning, and then Tszyu QUIT!!?? Are you kidding? This leaves a sour feeling simply because Tszyu, with I think Two rounds left, could have won this fight, but he gave up.. Not to take anything away from Ricky because he fought magnificently, but how can you quit if you're winning on a judges scorecard, and even on another.. Granted Tszyu was a P4P fighter, and always in the top tier of boxers of his time, so whether you KO him or beat him by a point you still beat a great fighter, so again not saying Ricky didn't perform great, I just don't see how, besides that fight he did anything to prove his ATG status..

He beat Tackie up.. beat Collazo in a real close fight, beat Maussa, beat Castillo, lost to Floyd, and although he beat Lazcano for about 86% of the fight, he almost got knocked down, and possibly even out, he was holding on for dear life and the ref bailed him out.. my stomach was sick after that fight..

I just think he will be more remembered by how exciting and fearless and relentless he was as opposed to anything else..

[Violent Demise]

The answer is a simple no. Hatton will never, ever be an All Time Great. I don't care what his groupies and concubines say

[Kel]

Probably not an ATG but Ricky will be remembered for what I think he wants to be remembered for. His balls, great personality, giving his all for his fans EVERY single time and not letting his head get as big as his bank account. No one can deny that the amount of fans he has brought to the sport is huge.

[THE THIRD MAN]

If Hatton fights and beats the smaller Pacman does he really get the recognition he seeks? I don't believe he retires after two more fights anyway, he is not yet 30 and still to much money in it for him to give it away just yet.
Do what Tszyu did and unify the title at 140lb, you can only beat who they put in front of you and if that includes Pacquaio then his legacy is assured.

[Tysonbruno]

NO!

[C-Lo]

The answer is a simple no. Hatton will never, ever be an All Time Great. I don't care what his groupies and concubines say

Doesn't get any more succinct than that!

[CutMeMick]

Ricky has now said that its two more fights then out.. I think he will beat paulie easily to be honest, and then that leave Pac or Oscar... For me it has to be Pac, Oscar is too big and a win over pac now would do more for Rickys status...

Just wondered, if he fights and beats both Paulie and Pac then retires, would you consider him an all time great?

He has only ever lost once to the P4P no.1 so no discrase there, and has beat everyone he could ov at 140.. i think its a pitty that the 140 division has gone a bit dry since Cotto, mayweather etc moved up.. Ricky just cant cut it at 147 and i honestly feel that Hatton could ov beat cotto at 140 and certainly given Mayweather a better fight.

Well he can be ATG depending how long your willing to make a list in order to be able to list him.
I mean TOP 100 ATG

Thing is he burtst onto the scene like someone had lite a fire cracker in his arse since then he's had mediocre performances he's been flat. The one outstanding performance came against JLC and if you dig back I predicted JLC wouldn't make it past 5. JLC was a corpse then and if JLC keeps fighting it's shame cause if he was a corpse then he's probably just bones now.

If Hattons serious about 2/3 more fights depending on those fights will be how far his legacy goes.

He is most def. a UK All Time Great that is for certain and I'm sure he's happy with that.
As long as his people recognize him and treat 'em like one of the boys he'll be fine.

[eagle]

lets b honest if hatton beat Pac and Paulie then he has been one the most dominant fighter at 140 ever.. and thats fact.. does that not make you an all time great

Why would beating Paulie and Pac ,ake him the most dominant 140 fighter ever. The other 3 great 140 fighters, Tszyu, JCC and Prior would have all eaten Paulie and Pac alive at 140.

[CutMeMick]

lets b honest if hatton beat Pac and Paulie then he has been one the most dominant fighter at 140 ever.. and thats fact.. does that not make you an all time great

Why would beating Paulie and Pac ,ake him the most dominant 140 fighter ever. The other 3 great 140 fighters, Tszyu, JCC and Prior would have all eaten Paulie and Pac alive at 140.

Amen.

[Pugilistic]

Hatton hasn't done enough in my book to be an all time great, he is one of Britains finest though.

[Wayne]

No.

[No Contest]

I think after all is said and done, he will be up there, if he hangs around and keeps fighting the top guys at lww, you can't deny him. Not everyone can be multiple weight division champs, come now his only loss was to "Money" Mayweather.