Can Kelly Pavlik do damage at 175?

[kingfrnk]

that would be a great fight for both of them cause both of them are prime but if does happen kelly takes it especially after fighting hopkins will gain him alot of experience so he will know how to handle kessler. this fight does need to happen though

[Markusdarkus]

that would be a great fight for both of them cause both of them are prime but if does happen kelly takes it especially after fighting hopkins will gain him alot of experience so he will know how to handle kessler. this fight does need to happen though

Wether he beats Hopkins or not it will not aid him against Kessler. Pavlik is a brawler if he was to box Kessler he wouldnt win a round.


If i was a Pavlik fan id worry about hopkins its 10rds at a new weight. Ok Calzaghe won in a career worst display but Kelly does have Joes footwork or speed the only two things that have troubled Hopkins.

Im willing to bet that after the 10rds b4 the dec you will be turding it.

[kingfrnk]

its not 10 its 12 i checked it at top rank and it is for 12 rounds i dont think they will sell a ppv for 10rnds and as for hopkins winning i dont see it happening and i like hopkins but he will slow down in the 5th 6th or 7th round and will clinch alot which the judges will not like so kelly will win this fight either way by ko or ud and dont forget hes fighting a young guy and the last youngster he fought he lost to twice and hes fighting the guy who beat him twice badly

[Pugilistic]

its not 10 its 12 i checked it at top rank and it is for 12 rounds i dont think they will sell a ppv for 10rnds and as for hopkins winning i dont see it happening and i like hopkins but he will slow down in the 5th 6th or 7th round and will clinch alot which the judges will not like so kelly will win this fight either way by ko or ud and dont forget hes fighting a young guy and the last youngster he fought he lost to twice and hes fighting the guy who beat him twice badly

Pavlik beat Taylor twice and Taylor got two wins over Hopkins so that means Pavlik will beat Hopkins right ?

If that was the case then Tarver beat Jones and Jones beat Hopkins so that means Tarver beat Hopkins..... oh wait.

Styles make fights.

[kingfrnk]

yes styles make fights and hopkins style is to throw about 20-30 punches a round and kelly throws about twice that amount maybe more and are harder punches compared to anybody hopkins has ever faced eventually those hard ass punches will where him down especially after the first few rounds just admit it its over for hopkins

[Markusdarkus]

yes styles make fights and hopkins style is to throw about 20-30 punches a round and kelly throws about twice that amount maybe more and are harder punches compared to anybody hopkins has ever faced eventually those hard ass punches will where him down especially after the first few rounds just admit it its over for hopkins

This fight is at 170lbs Pavlik will not be the same puncher he was at 160. Calzaghe throws more shots than Pavlik with greater speed and different angles. Hopkins made the fight close he will make this fight close also.


Infact Pavliks straight foward style and lack of punch variation plays into Hopkins.

[Pugilistic]

yes styles make fights and hopkins style is to throw about 20-30 punches a round and kelly throws about twice that amount maybe more and are harder punches compared to anybody hopkins has ever faced eventually those hard ass punches will where him down especially after the first few rounds just admit it its over for hopkins

Hopkins lacks workrate but what he lacks in workrate he brings in brilliant accuracy and timing with his shots and he also works well on the inside and frustrates his opponents with his sneaky blows on the inside. Hopkins tough defense and lateral movement will cause pavlik problems, Pavlik won't have his jab to set up his shots because Hopkins will take it away just like he did to Wright and Pavlik will find himself eating right hand counters and missing his shots and will get more frustrated with Hopkins work on the inside. Hopkins even at 43 still has what it takes to beat Pavlik and your making the mistake thinking he can't.

[Kel]

yes styles make fights and hopkins style is to throw about 20-30 punches a round and kelly throws about twice that amount maybe more and are harder punches compared to anybody hopkins has ever faced eventually those hard ass punches will where him down especially after the first few rounds just admit it its over for hopkins

Hopkins lacks workrate but what he lacks in workrate he brings in brilliant accuracy and timing with his shots and he also works well on the inside and frustrates his opponents with his sneaky blows on the inside. Hopkins tough defense and lateral movement will cause pavlik problems, Pavlik won't have his jab to set up his shots because Hopkins will take it away just like he did to Wright and Pavlik will find himself eating right hand counters and missing his shots and will get more frustrated with Hopkins work on the inside. Hopkins even at 43 still has what it takes to beat Pavlik and your making the mistake thinking he can't.

Good post. I just made a post on another thread about fighters considered to be old (due to their physical age) but experience is an amazing advantage againsed younger guys, Hopkins may well frustrate a young Pavlic into making silly mistakes and losing rounds for it. I think I've said that before in another recent thread (sorry bout that) but I can see that happening.