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    Default Re: Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

    I have some problems with the whole lineal idea, I really don't care about it even slightly actually, but if you want to go ahead and call him the man cause of that fine but Nate's win over Diaz was clearly more impressive. I'm not even sure if that's debatable, Casa hasn't looked good for years.

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    Default Re: Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

    I've been agreeing with Bilbo a lot lately

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    Default Re: Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

    The lineal championship I agree with. I think Marquez fought the real champ last night and Campbell is #2. So obviously we have to make a Campbell Marquez fight right ? Well hopefully.

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    Default Re: Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    The lineal championship I agree with. I think Marquez fought the real champ last night and Campbell is #2. So obviously we have to make a Campbell Marquez fight right ? Well hopefully.
    I'd love to see this fight and then the winner take on Pac and I think lose to Pac!

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    Default Re: Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

    I have decided that the number one spot at lightweight is tied between Campbell and Marquez.

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    Default Re: Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    I have decided that the number one spot at lightweight is tied between Campbell and Marquez.
    They definitely need to fight each other.

    BUT you have to consider also that Manny is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter on the planet and holds a win over Marquez just two fights ago!

    Can you have the p4p best fighter on the planet according to every ranking body behind a fighter he already beat in the last 12 months in a divisional ranking?

    That makes no sense to me at all.

    That's why I went with......

    1. Pacquaio
    2. Campbell
    3. Marquez

    But really all three have equal claim to the throne. There hasn't been this much controversy since the death of Edward the Confessor when Harold Godwinson, William the Conqueror and Harold Hardrada all battled for the English crown!

    I can't wait to see how this falls out.

    I reckon Pacquiao will win out if he makes the fights, although chances are he'll go with Oscar first leaving Marquez and Campbell to decide things first.

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    Default Re: Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

    Forget the carnival trinkets and shiny things.I'm pretty conflicted on this.In a head to head match up and based on most recent preformances.....I really think Marquez is just too sharp and down the middle all around for Campbell.

    But,I consider Campbell to be numero uno,Marquez 2nd,and Pac 3rd. what do we base it on.....# of belts ?Quality of opposition in respected division?Time at that weight and fight by fight quality?Then again,does one Casamayor battering win = wins over Juan Diaz,Kid Diamond,Quiles (ugh),Hlatswayo,Matt Zegan...Huh?,Oh and a loss to Lorenzo,who was just bludgeoned by Humberto Soto ?

    Then again x 2.....Marquez is a P4P top tier fighter with out question......and is fresh off two ,some would say solidly,even up fights with the #1 P4P fighter today,Manny Pacquiao?3rd then again ...Awwwh nevermind

    They need to fight,bottom line!!

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    Default Re: Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    I have decided that the number one spot at lightweight is tied between Campbell and Marquez.
    They definitely need to fight each other.

    BUT you have to consider also that Manny is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter on the planet and holds a win over Marquez just two fights ago!

    Can you have the p4p best fighter on the planet according to every ranking body behind a fighter he already beat in the last 12 months in a divisional ranking?

    That makes no sense to me at all.

    That's why I went with......

    1. Pacquaio
    2. Campbell
    3. Marquez

    But really all three have equal claim to the throne. There hasn't been this much controversy since the death of Edward the Confessor when Harold Godwinson, William the Conqueror and Harold Hardrada all battled for the English crown!

    I can't wait to see how this falls out.

    I reckon Pacquiao will win out if he makes the fights, although chances are he'll go with Oscar first leaving Marquez and Campbell to decide things first.
    My exact the same sentiment/stand as posted on the other thread...

    1. Pacquaio
    2. Campbell
    3. Marquez

    You can also add the argument on how these guys win over the fallen champs...

    - Pacquiao totally dominated David Diaz before the 9th round stoppage
    - Campbell dominated Juan
    - JMM and Casa fought a close fight until the time of 11th round stoppage
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    Last edited by XaduBoxer; 09-15-2008 at 12:56 AM.

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    Default Re: Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    I have decided that the number one spot at lightweight is tied between Campbell and Marquez.
    They definitely need to fight each other.

    BUT you have to consider also that Manny is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter on the planet and holds a win over Marquez just two fights ago!

    Can you have the p4p best fighter on the planet according to every ranking body behind a fighter he already beat in the last 12 months in a divisional ranking?

    That makes no sense to me at all.

    That's why I went with......

    1. Pacquaio
    2. Campbell
    3. Marquez

    But really all three have equal claim to the throne. There hasn't been this much controversy since the death of Edward the Confessor when Harold Godwinson, William the Conqueror and Harold Hardrada all battled for the English crown!

    I can't wait to see how this falls out.

    I reckon Pacquiao will win out if he makes the fights, although chances are he'll go with Oscar first leaving Marquez and Campbell to decide things first.
    I have Pac third on the rating at lightweight below Campbell and Marquez because although he holds a win over Marquez it was in the weightclass below and Marquez fought and beat the lineal champ Casamayor where Pacquiao beat a title holder David Diaz.

    Marquez is more accomplished at Lightweight than Pac and Pacquiao being number 1 on the P4P list should have no effect on his ranking at lightweight. I currently have Campbell as the top guy at 135 because he beat the number 1 guy in the division Juan Diaz, Diaz was the man to beat and he did it which should make him number 1 and Marquez should be second as he beat the linear champ in Casamayor and Pac is third because he beat the Wbc champ David Diaz.
    Last edited by Pugilistic; 09-15-2008 at 09:13 AM.

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