Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

[Galaxy]

So in your opinion, is Joe Calzaghe a two weight world champion ?

Do you consider Calzaghe a double champ? Cause I sure as hell do! But if you do you your contradicting yourself... you can't recognize Calzaghe but not Casamayor. I agree the Santa Cruz decision was rotten but that's the official result & history is littered with bad decisions. The fact is Casamayor entered the Ring as champion!

How do I contradict myself ? EVERYBODY bar 2 of those crack filled judges knew Santa Cruz won that fight. It wasn't close. So yes he was the champ according to the Ring ratings. But people know how shot he looked in his past 2 fights. The ring ratings works a stupid way, you have to beat the champ to replace him. Therefore Nate Campbell never went above him even though he beat Juan Diaz. The number 1 in many peoples eyes bar the Ring mag. Fukk The Ring mag.

And actually I don't consider Calzaghe a two weight world champ cuz he ain't won a WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF title at light-heavyweight. Just my opinion

The Ring didn't judge the fight just followed the official result! As I've said before the best fighter in the division is not always the champion or the title would never change hands. Just because Nate beat Juan didn't make him champion. Look at Liston he was avoided for years by Patterson & considered the best fighter in the division but he only became champion by beating the champion! Now how is that system stupid? Whats stupid is being given a paper belt & having 3 or 4 other paper belt holders all claiming to be champ... but thats just my opinion!!!

[leftylee]

Do you consider Calzaghe a double champ? Cause I sure as hell do! But if you do you your contradicting yourself... you can't recognize Calzaghe but not Casamayor. I agree the Santa Cruz decision was rotten but that's the official result & history is littered with bad decisions. The fact is Casamayor entered the Ring as champion!

How do I contradict myself ? EVERYBODY bar 2 of those crack filled judges knew Santa Cruz won that fight. It wasn't close. So yes he was the champ according to the Ring ratings. But people know how shot he looked in his past 2 fights. The ring ratings works a stupid way, you have to beat the champ to replace him. Therefore Nate Campbell never went above him even though he beat Juan Diaz. The number 1 in many peoples eyes bar the Ring mag. Fukk The Ring mag.

And actually I don't consider Calzaghe a two weight world champ cuz he ain't won a WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF title at light-heavyweight. Just my opinion

The Ring didn't judge the fight just followed the official result! As I've said before the best fighter in the division is not always the champion or the title would never change hands. Just because Nate beat Juan didn't make him champion. Look at Liston he was avoided for years by Patterson & considered the best fighter in the division but he only became champion by beating the champion! Now how is that system stupid? Whats stupid is being given a paper belt & having 3 or 4 other paper belt holders all claiming to be champ... but thats just my opinion!!!

Why doesn't it ? Cuz he never beat the lineal champ Conamayor ? He beat Juan Diaz, the number 1 Undisputed world champion of the division. Therefore Nate becomes the Undisputed champ and number 1 of the division.

[Galaxy]

How do I contradict myself ? EVERYBODY bar 2 of those crack filled judges knew Santa Cruz won that fight. It wasn't close. So yes he was the champ according to the Ring ratings. But people know how shot he looked in his past 2 fights. The ring ratings works a stupid way, you have to beat the champ to replace him. Therefore Nate Campbell never went above him even though he beat Juan Diaz. The number 1 in many peoples eyes bar the Ring mag. Fukk The Ring mag.

And actually I don't consider Calzaghe a two weight world champ cuz he ain't won a WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF title at light-heavyweight. Just my opinion

The Ring didn't judge the fight just followed the official result! As I've said before the best fighter in the division is not always the champion or the title would never change hands. Just because Nate beat Juan didn't make him champion. Look at Liston he was avoided for years by Patterson & considered the best fighter in the division but he only became champion by beating the champion! Now how is that system stupid? Whats stupid is being given a paper belt & having 3 or 4 other paper belt holders all claiming to be champ... but thats just my opinion!!!

Why doesn't it ? Cuz he never beat the lineal champ Conamayor ? He beat Juan Diaz, the number 1 Undisputed world champion of the division. Therefore Nate becomes the Undisputed champ and number 1 of the division.

When did Campbell become undisputed champ? Must have missed that one! The majority of the titles Diaz collected had been stripped!

[Lance Uppercut]

Alphabet NEW FlASH

Toshiaki Nishioka (32-4-3, 19 KOs), just won the WBC interim super-bantam belt today.

So who's the Super-Bantam weight Champion now. Nishioka or Israel Vasquez? That is the alphabet system. The WBC had some type of problem with Israel Vasquez that they had to create an interim champion.

What if Vasquez is stripped of his alphabet title for taking a fourth fight with Marquez. Are you going to tell me that Toshiaki Nishioka is the division champ. That's pathetic.

[leftylee]

Alphabet NEW FlASH

Toshiaki Nishioka (32-4-3, 19 KOs), just won the WBC interim super-bantam belt today.

So who's the Super-Bantam weight Champion now. Nishioka or Israel Vasquez? That is the alphabet system. The WBC had some type of problem with Israel Vasquez that they had to create an interim champion.

What if Vasquez is stripped of his alphabet title for taking a fourth fight with Marquez. Are you going to tell me that Toshiaki Nishioka is the division champ. That's pathetic.

Of course it's Vazquez. For fukk sake. He's fought the better competition and is the number 1 in many people's eyes not just the Ring ratings. Jesus Christ.