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Sorry Bilbo but the Ring championship has been around a hell of a lot longer than the alphabet fools! Ring mag created the rankings system & awarded championship belts since 1922!

I don't even recognize the alphabets. For you to say the Ring belt isn't a real title is fine cause that's your opinion but to myself & others the Ring belt is the only real championship & more prestigious than the ABC's! To me the alphabets aren't real! Anyone with enough money can create a sanctioning body so I can't see why you hold them in such high regard.

My reference to the AB's was to show that like Pacquiao they my be the best in the world but until they win the championship they're only #1 not the champions. South Africa will remain world champs until someone wins the next world cup just like Marquez will remain champion until he is beaten in the ring at 135!
Marquez is NOT a world champ at lightweight, Casa didn't have a belt when they fought.

The Ring belt is NOT a world championship belt. You may rate it more highly than a genuine title belt but it is still NOT a world title belt.

your analogy makes no sense as your arguing that South Africa are world champs because they won the official world title crown. Well Pacquaio holds an official world title crown but Marquez doesn't.

Furthermore Pacquaio beat Marquez only 6 months ago.

I agree that according to the Ring rankings Marquez should be champ, we are not arguing that at all, he's the Ring champ no question, he beat the linear champ, BUT in reality Pacquaio and Campbell are above him because A) they are both genuine world champions and hold world title belts whereas Marquez does not, and Campbell beat the best lightweight in the division in Juan Diaz. Pacquaio is the p4p worlds best AND beat Marquez so he the number 1 lightweight.

Again my rankings are NOT meant to be in accord with the Ring rankings but with reality.

1. Paquiao
2. Campbell
3. Marquez

So in your opinion, is Joe Calzaghe a two weight world champion ?
Do you consider Calzaghe a double champ? Cause I sure as hell do! But if you do you your contradicting yourself... you can't recognize Calzaghe but not Casamayor. I agree the Santa Cruz decision was rotten but that's the official result & history is littered with bad decisions. The fact is Casamayor entered the Ring as champion!