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    Default Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    No jab he doesnt box no speed he just tries to stand and bomb. Shane needs to retire he looks a shell. Mayorga wouldnt have won a round against prime Mosley who was losing that fight by a mile. At his peak he would have punched Cotto all over the ring its a shame when we know a Mosley 5yrs ago would have demolished Cotto and Mayorga.

    Please retire Shane.

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Mosley has become to dependant on power. He seems to still have his boxing skills. But doesn't use them as much. He'll rather trade instead. I agree it's time for him to go. Margarito would knock him out if they fight
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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Mosley looked his age tonight

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotten Apple View Post
    Mosley has become to dependant on power. He seems to still have his boxing skills. But doesn't use them as much. He'll rather trade instead. I agree it's time for him to go. Margarito would knock him out if they fight
    Mosley did look pretty ragged earlier, but I dont think Margarito would knock him out though. Might well outwork this version of Mosley, but I have a tough time imagining Mosley out for the count.

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Whilst Mosley did'nt look his prime last night, he certainly isn't as bad as some boxers who carried on too long.

    I still think its time for him to retire, although if he would have produced a big display last night then one final big fight would have been worth taking.

    Can't see him getting it though
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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    He fought the same/ similar fight against Cotto following him and looking for the big punch whilst being mostly ineffective.

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    When has Shane ever been fantatsic above Welter?
    Light Middle is not his weight, I'll bet he looks better in a Welter fight.

    Guys take it easy. Shane was originally a lightweight and at this stage of his career he beats a Light Middle, not tooooooo shabby.
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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    No jab he doesnt box no speed he just tries to stand and bomb. Shane needs to retire he looks a shell. Mayorga wouldnt have won a round against prime Mosley who was losing that fight by a mile. At his peak he would have punched Cotto all over the ring its a shame when we know a Mosley 5yrs ago would have demolished Cotto and Mayorga.

    Please retire Shane.
    He fights different fighters differently, remember how slow he looked against Vargas? Well I do. I never though he would be able to keep up with Collazo. I think he needs to fight these bigger boys like this. I don't think Mosley is that much worse then he was 5 years ago. People aren't giving enough credit to these other guys, and they are giving Mosley too much credit.

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    No jab he doesnt box no speed he just tries to stand and bomb. Shane needs to retire he looks a shell. Mayorga wouldnt have won a round against prime Mosley who was losing that fight by a mile. At his peak he would have punched Cotto all over the ring its a shame when we know a Mosley 5yrs ago would have demolished Cotto and Mayorga.

    Please retire Shane.
    Quite simple why YOU think SSM looked bad....
    2 things....

    1. Size difference (if you didn't see it your blind)
    2. Styles make fights





    Anyone who judges SSM on last nights fight is blind IMO.

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Was he losing? I didn't see it but I saw that ESPN had Mosley up by three rounds going into the 12th. Not like that's definitive or anything.

    I thought this would be an easy fight for Shane

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Was he losing? I didn't see it but I saw that ESPN had Mosley up by three rounds going into the 12th. Not like that's definitive or anything.

    I thought this would be an easy fight for Shane
    Mayorga came into the ring as a Light Heavyweight...
    He looked huge compared to SSM.

    I had SSM wining and it was a hard fight at times for SMM because of the size difference.
    Matter a fact if Mayorga landed more then 5 significant punches throught the fight I'd be surprised... They were far and few.

    Where as SSM tagged him and fucken cought him flush but the bigger Mayorga took them like nothing.

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    I was picking Mayorga By Ko, Atleast I had hoped. But I did say if Mosley boxed him he would get him out of late, But if he brawled Mayorga would Ko him. It looked like my perdiction was right on Q in the first two rounds, Because Mosley looked scared to mix it up and Mayorga hurt him a few times but then Mosly started to box him and Mayorga lost once again to a top fighter..........Oh well shat happens but atleast I get to see Pavlik knock out Hopkins.
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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Bah Baldomir was 163 against Mayweather weighed in at 149, and Mayweather comprehensively outboxed him over 12 rounds, and Baldomir is a much better schooled fighter than Mayorga, and he still couldn't do anything. Oscar must have weighed in 10-15 pounds heavier then MAyweather as well, and Mayweather totally negated his physical advantages. Roy fought larger LHW's and made them look a lot worse than him like Virgill Hill. I am criticizing Mosley for not fighting those type of fights against Mayorga when he should be able to.

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Mosley does what he needs to do to win. He was correctly tentative for the first two rounds while he was figuring out Mayorga's style and judging his power. Mayorga actually fought a very good fight last night. It was probably as as good a performance as he was capable.

    Shane didn't have the weapons to look good against Mayorga. Most people don't. ODLH is one of the few, because he has solid, meaningful jab, perfect footwork, and excellent one-shot power - the kind to stun a guy like Mayorga with one punch.

    For the first half of the fight, I though Shane looked old, but in hindsight, he was just being tactical. He looked great once he had Mayorga figured out. Then he systematically broke down and KO'd a much, much larger man. Even take the final KO punch. He was dropping righ after right after right on him. Mayorga gets up, and Mosley is throws a Roy Jones-eque lead left hook right on the button - knowing the Mayorga was focused on the right and Mayorga never saw that punch coming.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Shane take one more crack a Vernon.

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    Default Re: Was Mosley even 50% of what he was against Cotto?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Was he losing? I didn't see it but I saw that ESPN had Mosley up by three rounds going into the 12th. Not like that's definitive or anything.

    I thought this would be an easy fight for Shane
    Mayorga came into the ring as a Light Heavyweight...
    He looked huge compared to SSM.

    I had SSM wining and it was a hard fight at times for SMM because of the size difference.
    Matter a fact if Mayorga landed more then 5 significant punches throught the fight I'd be surprised... They were far and few.

    Where as SSM tagged him and fucken cought him flush but the bigger Mayorga took them like nothing.
    Until Shane got him late ofcourse . Until then there was no indication that Mosley could take him out like that

    Mayorga has never been layed out like that and hes fought guys like Tito and Oscar . Mayorga said he was surprised how hard Mosley hit him . Youve already mentioned the weight difference so given these facts I duno why people are being so harsh on Shane I think what he did was pretty impressive TBH

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