Bernard Hopkins

[Tysonbruno]

Don't be an idiot. Did you not read what I said?
I didn't say Pavlik made bhop look better thus hopkins wasnt 100% versus Calzaghe.
I said Hopkins worked much harder last night then against Calzaghe without getting tired,
so it can be argued that his Cardio was better last night than in the calzaghe fight.
Meaning he wasn't as prepared.

Hopkins MADE Calzaghe look that bad, get over it. He looked like an amateur because of hopkins style. By "your" logic, and Calzaghe not being 100% for not looking as stellar versus previous opponents - you'd STILL be wrong.

Because NO ONE has ever looked good against bhop, who's had a longer career, so Cal fits right in.

Anyway - I'll repeat.
Hopkins Did more moving, Threw more punching, Clinched less (had less breaks).
Meaning he fought a much more active fight and actually did it for 12 rounds last night.

Against Calzaghe Hopkins didn't Throw as man, CLINCHED ALOT (rest), Didn't move as much, And even took breaks on low blows, more rest. But Was TIRED after the 7th round.

Do you see the point I'm trying to make yet? Hopkins, cardio-wise, was a superior fighter last night than against Calzaghe.. which hints he was probably not as prepared. Had he fought calzaghe with the gas tank he had last night, it would have been a more active fight.

Hopkins was in better shape for Pavlik than when he fought Calzaghe?

That explains why he totally outclassed and controlled a limited slow guy that didn't have the ability to hit him.. yet couldn't stay with a guy that constantly pressured him, throwing a million punches from all over the place.

Yeah.. I get ya. That makes perfect sense.

You really are an idiot, aren't you?
Calzaghe threw a zillion slaps and hardly any landed. Hopkins offense wasn't as active against Calzaghe, he didn't move as much as he did last night, he had more rests inside the clinch with calzaghe, and he even had time inbetween low blow counts to take a rest.

Last night he was more offensive, he moved more, he clinched less meaning he had less breaks and there were no time outs for low blows.

He did this for 12 rounds last night. for 12 rounds he exherted more energy than he did in the calzaghe fight, but was tired in 7 against calzaghe. What don't you understand?
Can someone with a brain reply to me please? I'm done.

Here.. i'll make this easy for you.
I JOG tomorrow and can only do a mile.
then RUN next week and can do 2 miles.

When was I in better shape?

Mate your views are wasted on here if you have something negative to say about Calzaghe this is a bit of a Calzaghe fan club site LOL i personally hate the guy and regarding your comments about Hopkins i totally agree.

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Hopkins was in better shape for Pavlik than when he fought Calzaghe?

That explains why he totally outclassed and controlled a limited slow guy that didn't have the ability to hit him.. yet couldn't stay with a guy that constantly pressured him, throwing a million punches from all over the place.

Yeah.. I get ya. That makes perfect sense.

You really are an idiot, aren't you?
Calzaghe threw a zillion slaps and hardly any landed. Hopkins offense wasn't as active against Calzaghe, he didn't move as much as he did last night, he had more rests inside the clinch with calzaghe, and he even had time inbetween low blow counts to take a rest.

Last night he was more offensive, he moved more, he clinched less meaning he had less breaks and there were no time outs for low blows.

He did this for 12 rounds last night. for 12 rounds he exherted more energy than he did in the calzaghe fight, but was tired in 7 against calzaghe. What don't you understand?
Can someone with a brain reply to me please? I'm done.

Here.. i'll make this easy for you.
I JOG tomorrow and can only do a mile.
then RUN next week and can do 2 miles.

When was I in better shape?

Mate your views are wasted on here if you have something negative to say about Calzaghe this is a bit of a Calzaghe fan club site LOL i personally hate the guy and regarding your comments about Hopkins i totally agree.

Yeah bro, I see that now. Jesus. Some people are just set on their ways I guess.

[Tysonbruno]

Calzaghe was avoiding Pavlik according to most on here myself included and Pavlik was the man to beat Calzaghe. Pavlik beat a slick boxer in Jermain Taylor twice he demolished Edison Miranda he was on great form he was going to fight Hopkins he was going to KO him in most people's opinions or at least UD12. Hopkins puts on a masterclass makes Pavlik fight his fight constantly changing his angles putting shots together in 3's and 4's. But now Hopkins as beat him Pavlik is one dimensional he is overrated only fights in straight lines even though he cut the ring off very well in many of his other fights some of you guys make me laugh your opinions change in a heart beat. Rather than giving Hopkins the respect he deserves for 1. taking this fight in the first place and 2. beating this kid easy. But no Hopkins doesn't get the respect now it Calzaghe would have beat him easy and it makes Calzaghe's win look even better over Hopkins HOW? he only beat him on a debatable SD12 however you look at it.

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Calzaghe was avoiding Pavlik according to most on here myself included and Pavlik was the man to beat Calzaghe. Pavlik beat a slick boxer in Jermain Taylor twice he demolished Edison Miranda he was on great form he was going to fight Hopkins he was going to KO him in most people's opinions or at least UD12. Hopkins puts on a masterclass makes Pavlik fight his fight constantly changing his angles putting shots together in 3's and 4's. But now Hopkins as beat him Pavlik is one dimensional he is overrated only fights in straight lines even though he cut the ring off very well in many of his other fights some of you guys make me laugh your opinions change in a heart beat. Rather than giving Hopkins the respect he deserves for 1. taking this fight in the first place and 2. beating this kid easy. But no Hopkins doesn't get the respect now it Calzaghe would have beat him easy and it makes Calzaghe's win look even better over Hopkins HOW? he only beat him on a debatable SD12 however you look at it.

Because people are funny, I guess.
Vernon beats Mosely, Tarver beats Roy, etc etc.

Does that mean Tarver is a God now for Beating Roy when all those
other guys couldn't? No. So I don't see why suddenly when Bhop does something
then all credit is given to the guy who beat HIM. I think this board just has far too many Calzaghe fanboys.