~ A Message to Referee Marlon B. Wright ~ (Ref. for Andrade-Bute)

[GuyIncognito76]

Mayorga had one second and wasn't given a chance, so your point?

[ICB]

Mayorga had one second and wasn't given a chance, so your point?

Ricardo Mayorga was losing the fight and had no chance of winning, Lucian Bute had won almost every single round.

[Rantcatrat]

Mayorga had one second and wasn't given a chance, so your point?

Ricardo Mayorga was losing the fight and had no chance of winning, Lucian Bute had won almost every single round.

Wrong! Did you see the cards? Many thought Mayorga was winning or at least it was very close.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

ibf Uniform Championship Rules - September 2006


rule #10. A boxer who has been knocked down cannot be saved by the bell in any round.

Therefore it doesn't matter if bute got up, what matters is could he continue, and by looking at him there is no way he could continue. He was out on his feet and he couldn't even stand without the help of the ropes. Therefore it should have been ruled a tko win for andrade.

[Spicoli]

I think they should revisit how a ref is appointed.It really screams of favoritism for the home town fighter,Bute.Wright had worked Bute's last 5 fights in a row.....quite a bit of recent "Familiarity" between the two in that.

Bute should have been made to take multiple steps forward even with the round over, Ref clearly would have stopped the fight seeing Bute stumble or fall to him.Have to go dig up that Hilton/Quellette fight they talked about...same situation I believe??Hope Andrade gets his rematch now,start out fierce.

[ICB]

I think they should revisit how a ref is appointed.It really screams of favoritism for the home town fighter,Bute.Wright had worked Bute's last 5 fights in a row.....quite a bit of recent "Familiarity" between the two in that.

Bute should have been made to take multiple steps forward even with the round over, Ref clearly would have stopped the fight seeing Bute stumble or fall to him.Have to go dig up that Hilton/Quellette fight they talked about...same situation I believe??Hope Andrade gets his rematch now,start out fierce.

It wouldn't have made a difference even if the ref, wouldn't of told Andrade off about not being in the neutral corner. Thats irrelvant because the fight was over time wise, at that point it was only the ref's decision that mattered whether or not he felt the fight should be stopped. Not whether or not Andrade could stop Bute because he couldn't because the time was over.

Bute pulled himself at the count of 8 up like a true champion, and all he had to do was stand up and he did. He won almost every single round and he deserved to win, i think the controversy is overrated IMO, i think it would of been more of an injustice if Andrade would of won.

[CFH]

The hyperbole in this thread is ridiculous.

IBF rules:
6. The bell will not save a boxer in any round of the bout. If a boxer is "downed" just before the 3-minute bell in any round, the referee's count shall continue and the bell will not ring until the boxer rises and his hands clear the floor.

The more I think about it, regardless of the bias been shown through out the fight (which I agree was present), the ref did the right thing. No way the fight should've been stopped at the end. I do want to see a rematch asap though, on neutral territory.

[Spicoli]

I think they should revisit how a ref is appointed.It really screams of favoritism for the home town fighter,Bute.Wright had worked Bute's last 5 fights in a row.....quite a bit of recent "Familiarity" between the two in that.

Bute should have been made to take multiple steps forward even with the round over, Ref clearly would have stopped the fight seeing Bute stumble or fall to him.Have to go dig up that Hilton/Quellette fight they talked about...same situation I believe??Hope Andrade gets his rematch now,start out fierce.

It wouldn't have made a difference even if the ref, wouldn't of told Andrade off about not being in the neutral corner. Thats irrelvant because the fight was over time wise, at that point it was only the ref's decision that mattered whether or not he felt the fight should be stopped. Not whether or not Andrade could stop Bute because he couldn't because the time was over.

Bute pulled himself at the count of 8 up like a true champion, and all he had to do was stand up and he did. He won almost every single round and he deserved to win, i think the controversy is overrated IMO, i think it would of been more of an injustice if Andrade would of won.

Pretty much stated as much on a prior page in this one,looking at it from other side.As much of an absolute shit job the ref did ...and he was shit & biased...Bute beat the count.I can not fathom ruling a fighter KO'd literally after time has expired,but it has happened!What is the ref deciding he or she can continue on with?? The fight is over,out of time.Ive seen fights in which the bell rings in final round after a fighter is floored,they have to beat the count.And some do not sound the bell in same situation.This fight has messed me up,badly.Their was a similar fight on FNF's a few months ago,final second KD on Kevin Burnett of last round,the bell sounded as time was over and he had to rise up...He was wobbly and KO'd where he stood but they awarded him a Dec. victory.He had no idea what his own name was.

That being said the ref was terrible,not calling the hugging,ruling a BS knockdown on Andrade,standing in between them with exaggerated breaks,etc.Clear favoritism.Just make a rematch already...in the States...and make it 15 rounds .

[ArawakWarria]

Oh yeah, and Bute held more than John Ruiz

You sure got the right name... BOOOTAY.

[amat]

It seems a bit startling that Wright has reffed so many of Bute's fights recently but no different then Vann and Parriss reffing almost every single Hatton fight in England.

The count was BS, I haven't taken a timer to it but it's just stupid to do, it was very bizarre and I don't know who would have won but we at least deserved an honest count.

[GuyIncognito76]

Ricardo Mayorga was losing the fight and had no chance of winning, Lucian Bute had won almost every single round.

I actually had Mayorga winning that fight and was suprised when the judges had it to Mosley -the referee couldn't have known in any case (and yes, I know he wasn't getting up anyway )

[Spicoli]

Been stewing on this at work earlier.They do have a standing 8 in Canada as well right??Would have been a perfect time with Bute prior to the KD.

One thing,The Bell was late as can be.Bute hit the deck with 1 or 2 seconds left in the round and No bell sounded what so ever,surley Bute's corner new the clock expired?It only rang once the Ref finished 8 count,wiped the gloves and turned to let it continue.......I believe it was Bute's corner man that worked the ref and pointed too Andrade near the corner.

I fully think the ref was biased,calling breaks after Andrade landed clean on a few occasions,B.S KD called on him and not calling the hugging by Bute but.......truth be told Imo And I have no interest at all in Bute and really like Andrade but Bute beat the count,all the ref had to do was ignore Andrade,toll an 8 count,and the fight was well over...no dispute

[CutMeMick]

Fuck You Marlon B. Wright!!!
Fuck You Every Single Time You Breath...

[Taeth]

To be fair he stood in time, and there was 6 seconds left when he was knocked down, whether the ref had counted to 8 or not Andrade wouldn't have been able to seal the deal. I think it was bs job by Marlon, but that screw up the end didn't change anything, he should have stopped it sooner this could ruin Bute, but that knockdown didn't change anything in terms of finishing the fight. I also think they must have stopped the time when The ref went to scold Andrade or else it would have finished sooner.

[SweetPea]

To be fair he stood in time, and there was 6 seconds left when he was knocked down, whether the ref had counted to 8 or not Andrade wouldn't have been able to seal the deal. I think it was bs job by Marlon, but that screw up the end didn't change anything, he should have stopped it sooner this could ruin Bute, but that knockdown didn't change anything in terms of finishing the fight. I also think they must have stopped the time when The ref went to scold Andrade or else it would have finished sooner.

Agreed. The ref did a horrible job, but the long count by itself wasn't the difference in the fight. Bute was on his feet in less than 10 seconds.