Look Fenster if anybody was looking back through world champs through WBC,WBA,WBO,IBF Calzaghe wouldn't be their Calzaghe is number 1 and the Ring champ i regard the belt highly but it int a genuine title.
Look Fenster if anybody was looking back through world champs through WBC,WBA,WBO,IBF Calzaghe wouldn't be their Calzaghe is number 1 and the Ring champ i regard the belt highly but it int a genuine title.
Stop with the genuine bit... Lets see, for history purposes..
Ring Champs History
Light Heavyweight
Number Champion Reign
1 Maxie Rosenbloom June 25, 1930 - November 16, 1934
2 Bob Olin November 16, 1934 - October 31, 1935
3 John Henry Lewis October 31, 1935 - June 1939 (Retired)
4 Billy Conn (beat Melio Bettina) July 13, 1939 - May 1941 (moved up to Heavyweight)
5 Gus Lesnevich (beat Tami Mauriello) August 26, 1941 - July 26, 1948
6 Freddie Mills July 26, 1948 - January 24, 1950
7 Joey Maxim January 24, 1950 - December 17, 1952
8 Archie Moore December 17, 1952 - May 12, 1962 (moved up to Heavyweight)
9 Harold Johnson (beat Doug Jones) May 12, 1962 - June 1, 1963
10 Willie Pastrano June 1, 1963 - March 30, 1965
11 Jose Torres March 30, 1965 - December 16, 1966
12 Dick Tiger December 16, 1966 - May 24, 1968
13 Bob Foster May 24, 1968 - September 16, 1974 (retired)
14 V�*ctor Gal�*ndez 1979 - November 30, 1979 (lost to Marvin Johnson)
15 Matthew Saad Muhammad (awarded title by Ring) November 30, 1979 - December 19, 1981
16 Dwight Muhammad Qawi December 19, 1981 - March 18, 1983
17 Michael Spinks March 18, 1983 - September 21, 1985 (won heavyweight championship)
18 Roy Jones Jr. 2001 - May 15, 2004
19 Antonio Tarver May 15, 2004 - December 18, 2004
20 Glen Johnson December 18, 2004 - June 18, 2005
21 Antonio Tarver June 18, 2005 - June 10, 2006
22 Bernard Hopkins June 10, 2006 - April 19, 2008
23 Joe Calzaghe April 19, 2008 - Present
WBO Champs History
Michael Moorer December 3rd, 1988
Title Vacated 1991
Leeonzer Barber May 9, 1991
Dariusz Michalczewski September 10, 1994
Julio César González October 10, 2003
Zsolt Erdei January 17, 2004 - current
Who will NOT recognise Hopkins and Calzaghe as genuine champs?
Last edited by Fenster; 11-11-2008 at 10:05 PM.
3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.
Fenster were going round in circles here mate yes Calzaghe is number 1 light heavyweight in the world he holds The Ring magazine belt but he doesn't hold a WBC,WBA,WBO, or IBF belt so he isn't a genuine world champ by any of the 4 governing bodies. You know what i mean but as usual your being your anal self FACT.![]()
If the Ring is not a "genuine" title why are Calzaghe and Hopkins refered to as TWO-WEIGHT champions?
Look at all the press reports.. here's your history
Calzaghe wins light-heavyweight title - Yahoo! Eurosport UK
ESPN - Light heavyweight champ Calzaghe set to face Jones on Sept. 20 - Boxing
Joe Calzaghe Beats Roy Jones Jr In Light-Heavyweight Contest In New York And Becomes A Boxing Hero | World News | Sky News
Joe Calzaghe calls time on world-title reign - Times Online
LOOKING through WBC, WBO, WBA and IBF history will reveal they weren't "their" world champions. Neither will Roy Jones be seen as world champ according to the WBO, he never won their belt.
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3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.
I know exactly what you're saying. I'm showing you Calzaghe is a genuine lightheavy champion too. There's nothing to elevate the alphabets above The Ring title.
History will show Calzaghe as the lightheavy champ - without a poxy alphabet.
No report says "non genuine light-heavyweight champion of the world" does it?![]()
3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.
Chad Dawson is more hype than legit. Not aggressive enough in the Tarver fight, he had his man by the 6th round if he fought like a Champion. (Not to mention that Glenn Johnson is pretty long in the tooth also.)
Even though the Hopkins fight was "boring," I'd rather Calzaghe face Hopkins one more time, THEN if Joe's still around (he shouldn't be) he could take on Dawson, if he's still around.
Hopkins Calzaghe, someone has to shut ONE of them up! Why not they do it to each other?
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