< David Haye vs. Monte Barrett > It's go time... Let's talk it out.

[leggy]

i heard he liked falling over

[ono]

Congratulations England, yall done got your own Jeff Lacy. I'm not going to hate because I was and still am a huge Jeff Lacy fan but damn, calm down for a second. I think Lacy was a more credible boxer though because he went through the US Amateur system and was an Olympian. So more teeth to that bite imo.

But yeah, he's a poor man's Jeff Lacy in a more glamorous division with more pro credentials that all are going to be questioned after his venture in the heavyweight division is through. Seriously he was WIDE OPEN in there jumping around with shots didn't land a clean punch with any of the ko force until the 5th round. If you're touting speed and power, you better be able to get the speed and power there cleanly. Haye's nickname suits him perfectly he is a haymaker fighter. He fights like guys played on Fight Night Round 2.

Vitali sees this, he's going along but Vitali or Wlad would absolutely work Haye. Still, he generates excitement for the division the way Lacy did.

I'll take 2 of what you're taking

[littlebif]

He was just testing to see how hard the canvas was for when Haye put him on it

[DaxxKahn]

Lot of criticism considering he knocked the guy down five times. and was unhurt and dragged into a brawl.

Well you just added to things...By trying to act as though the criticizim is un warrented just opened a huge point and a point that was already being made...

1. Knocking down Barrett 5 times is not really a huge thing...he was KO'd by Couser....a second rate journeyman

2. If he can be made to fight Barretts fight and not allow himself to remain poised and stick to HIS game plan against a gate keeper WTF is he supposed to do against Vitaly?....Are you going to say that if he was in a fight with Vitaly he would handle himself different because he knows he would have to?...Or some other bullshit.....

Haye was sloppy...Had nothing to do with Barrett...Haye swung for the fences far to often throughout the bout.....His damn left was so low he might as well of not even had one for defense because if he kept it that low against Vitaly...The Dr would take his head off with a straight right....

I agree Haye will create some excitement in the HW division...His trash talk alone will draw fans but fact is he is not on the level of either Klitschko...Both are too big....Vitaly if he choose to "Drag Haye into a brawl"...would not go down 5 times...(Not at all)....he would muscle Haye anywhere he wants....

Truth is IMO Sam Peter KO's Haye the first time he connects with a right to the head full tilt.....

Haye has a future but he is not ready to fight atop the HW division....The real big guys are too strong for Haye and the fact he is so easily "Drawn into a brawl"....He would be his own worst enemy

[WelshDevilRob]

Haye was sloppy as shit...He swung for the fences too many times...He kept that left arm of his way too low...He did not look to be overly fast most of the time.....

One time he tried to slug with eithr Klitschko he would end up on his back....Especially Vitaly who likes to toy with opponents...This guy is no threat to either sorry...amd I can see the "It was only his first real HW bout" bullshit coming already

Daxx I assume you've seen Lennox Lewis vs Shannon Briggs - didn't Lewis look sloppy at times in that fight when Briggs was swinging wildly early on?
Yes he did but did he look the same way in his next fight? No.

Point is you can't base everything on 1 fight - Haye was overeager once he had his man hurt while Barrett was fighting desperate.

I'm convinced haye will box against Klitschko or someone more threatning as he has done in the past.

[killersheep]

Haye was sloppy as shit...He swung for the fences too many times...He kept that left arm of his way too low...He did not look to be overly fast most of the time.....

One time he tried to slug with eithr Klitschko he would end up on his back....Especially Vitaly who likes to toy with opponents...This guy is no threat to either sorry...amd I can see the "It was only his first real HW bout" bullshit coming already

Daxx I assume you've seen Lennox Lewis vs Shannon Briggs - didn't Lewis look sloppy at times in that fight when Briggs was swinging wildly early on?
Yes he did but did he look the same way in his next fight? No.

Point is you can't base everything on 1 fight - Haye was overeager once he had his man hurt while Barrett was fighting desperate.

I'm convinced haye will box against Klitschko or someone more threatning as he has done in the past.

I admittedly not seen much of pre-Maccarinelli Haye, maybe you can point out a fight where Haye boxes. I'd like to see it.

[WelshDevilRob]

As for Vitali Klitschko, I think people are assuming he is back to his best based on 1 fight.

Yes he controlled the fight and did a good job but Peter just didn't turn up or seemed void of any hunger, desire or motivation.

Peter would have lost to alot of Heavyweights that night simply cause he looked like he hadn't trained and was one of the slowest Heavyweights I have ever seen in the history of the sport - he made Matt Skelton seem light footed.

We will have definate answers about how good Vitali is when he faces a stern test in Gomez - another former Cruiserweight king.
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For me Haye boxed well the 1st 2 rounds and avoided jabs from Barrett and dodged some hefty looking blows. Haye did get caught a couple of times but took them well - it is a boxing match so people are going to get hit.
From the 3rd it got a bit reckless and intruth very entertaining. Barrett was a desperate man and Haye was trying to find the finishing punch.

It was only the last knockdown that Haye landed on the button - all the other knockdowns seemeed to be grazing blows - which is testiment to Hayes power.

Haye has now Ko'd 2 Heavyweights and I expect the next fight to be a greater test - the winner of arreola vs Walker would be good or even Eddie Chambers for the rounds.


Entertainment in a Heavyweight fight - at long last.

[WelshDevilRob]

Haye was sloppy as shit...He swung for the fences too many times...He kept that left arm of his way too low...He did not look to be overly fast most of the time.....

One time he tried to slug with eithr Klitschko he would end up on his back....Especially Vitaly who likes to toy with opponents...This guy is no threat to either sorry...amd I can see the "It was only his first real HW bout" bullshit coming already

Daxx I assume you've seen Lennox Lewis vs Shannon Briggs - didn't Lewis look sloppy at times in that fight when Briggs was swinging wildly early on?
Yes he did but did he look the same way in his next fight? No.

Point is you can't base everything on 1 fight - Haye was overeager once he had his man hurt while Barrett was fighting desperate.

I'm convinced haye will box against Klitschko or someone more threatning as he has done in the past.

I admittedly not seen much of pre-Maccarinelli Haye, maybe you can point out a fight where Haye boxes. I'd like to see it.

The Fragomeni fight he boxed for long periods and picked his punches due to the Italians gloves being in such a high guard. Fragomeni fought coming forward behind a very tight guard - meaning Haye had to move and pick his shots.

He also took his time against Mormeck but that was mainly due to weight issues.

[Deanrw]

IMO Haye looked kinda bad last night. He won yes, but look very non-poised doing so.

He will not reach the top fighting like that. It was his first fight at heavy so I am willing to look past it for now.

[Spicoli]

IMO Haye looked kinda bad last night. He won yes, but look very non-poised doing so.

He will not reach the top fighting like that. It was his first fight at heavy so I am willing to look past it for now.

He looked erratic.The thing is he needs to refine and tighten up his deficiency's NOW before he gets in with the higher tier.Its an entirely different ball game now.Barret,even at this stage was a good showcase intro but Haye has alot of work to do.Power will take you places but his lack of defense is glaring,backing straight,hands down....and that leaping in with that right.Barret was touching him in spots.

[leftylee]

I still can't get over it.

What the hell was it all about ?

Anyone got a vid so I could watch it again I would appreciate it

[Mark TKO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouu_zPXZB48

[killersheep]

I scored the ring entrance 10-8 even though a punch wasn't landed.

[killersheep]

Remember the good old days when fights used to be on at 10pm? What the hell is the point of putting it on just before midnight, surely you must get a smaller audience? It can't be for US TV 'cause I doubt they give a shit.

It's not for US TV because it wasn't broadcast in the US.

I knew you didn't give a shit!

I'm taking a letter...

Dear Mr Obama...

Hey man i didn't say I didn't watch it....................

I am interested to see if Haye can bring some excitement into the HW division.

[No Contest]

Lol, poor guy thats embarassing as hell. I think he should have taken the full eight before springing up.