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    Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?
    Isn't it? It's not that different. You feel that people (IE people at abortion clinics or at gay bars) are doing something morally wrong which is an affront to your religion/God, so you kill them for it.

    It's not 100% the same, but it's not all the different.
    ok, your point is taken. Not 100% taken, but somewhat taken. I would say that far fewer christians are prepared to kill to support their beliefs. And they would tend to target their victims more carefully. Note the use of the word tend.

    There is still the issue of concepts of jihad and martyrdom in modern society and religion. I've made my point there.
    You mean like the crusades or the martyrdom of St Peter?

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    Isn't it? It's not that different. You feel that people (IE people at abortion clinics or at gay bars) are doing something morally wrong which is an affront to your religion/God, so you kill them for it.

    It's not 100% the same, but it's not all the different.
    ok, your point is taken. Not 100% taken, but somewhat taken. I would say that far fewer christians are prepared to kill to support their beliefs. And they would tend to target their victims more carefully. Note the use of the word tend.

    There is still the issue of concepts of jihad and martyrdom in modern society and religion. I've made my point there.
    You mean like the crusades or the martyrdom of St Peter?
    That's hardly modern society is it? We've learned a few things since then. I would say that going to war in the name of religion has long since stopped being a characteristic of "Western Society". Besides, the Crusades could hardly be described as deliberate and widespread attacks on civilians. For the most part it was between opposing armies.

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    ok, your point is taken. Not 100% taken, but somewhat taken. I would say that far fewer christians are prepared to kill to support their beliefs. And they would tend to target their victims more carefully. Note the use of the word tend.

    There is still the issue of concepts of jihad and martyrdom in modern society and religion. I've made my point there.
    You mean like the crusades or the martyrdom of St Peter?
    That's hardly modern society is it? We've learned a few things since then. I would say that going to war in the name of religion has long since stopped being a characteristic of "Western Society". Besides, the Crusades could hardly be described as deliberate and widespread attacks on civilians. For the most part it was between opposing armies.
    Sabbra and Shatilla happened in the early eighties,the Jewish brigades surrounded the refugee camps,and the Lebanese CHRISTIAN MILITIA walked in and shot every woman child and elderly person they could find.
    Oklahoma City and Atlanta happened in the 90's

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    You mean like the crusades or the martyrdom of St Peter?
    That's hardly modern society is it? We've learned a few things since then. I would say that going to war in the name of religion has long since stopped being a characteristic of "Western Society". Besides, the Crusades could hardly be described as deliberate and widespread attacks on civilians. For the most part it was between opposing armies.
    Sabbra and Shatilla happened in the early eighties,the Jewish brigades surrounded the refugee camps,and the Lebanese CHRISTIAN MILITIA walked in and shot every woman child and elderly person they could find.
    Oklahoma City and Atlanta happened in the 90's
    Yes, I remember the massacres in the Palestine camps in the 80s. Wrong yes. But I wouldn't say they were done in the name of christianity. Rather they were an extreme and over the top reaction to terrorism, because a lot of the terrorists were supoosedly based in the camps. And things got out of hand. There was also a civil war going on at the time.
    Last edited by CGM; 11-30-2008 at 05:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post

    That's hardly modern society is it? We've learned a few things since then. I would say that going to war in the name of religion has long since stopped being a characteristic of "Western Society". Besides, the Crusades could hardly be described as deliberate and widespread attacks on civilians. For the most part it was between opposing armies.
    Sabbra and Shatilla happened in the early eighties,the Jewish brigades surrounded the refugee camps,and the Lebanese CHRISTIAN MILITIA walked in and shot every woman child and elderly person they could find.
    Oklahoma City and Atlanta happened in the 90's
    Yes, I remember the massacres in the Palestine camps in the 80s. Wrong yes. But I wouldn't say they were done in the name of christianity. Rather they were an extreme and over the top reaction to terrorism, because a lot of the terrorists were supoosedly based in the camps. And things got out of hand. There was also a civil war going on at the time.
    No,it was a cold blooded massacre,and it was religous in nature,the Palestinian combatants had allready left the camp under Jewish supervision.
    The "terrorists"(ha ha) werent there,and the Jews had allready confirmed that,they supervised the removal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
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    Sabbra and Shatilla happened in the early eighties,the Jewish brigades surrounded the refugee camps,and the Lebanese CHRISTIAN MILITIA walked in and shot every woman child and elderly person they could find.
    Oklahoma City and Atlanta happened in the 90's
    Yes, I remember the massacres in the Palestine camps in the 80s. Wrong yes. But I wouldn't say they were done in the name of christianity. Rather they were an extreme and over the top reaction to terrorism, because a lot of the terrorists were supoosedly based in the camps. And things got out of hand. There was also a civil war going on at the time.
    No,it was a cold blooded massacre,and it was religous in nature,the Palestinian combatants had allready left the camp under Jewish supervision.
    The "terrorists"(ha ha) werent there,and the Jews had allready confirmed that,they supervised the removal
    point taken, that was over 30 years ago. End of this part of the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post

    Yes, I remember the massacres in the Palestine camps in the 80s. Wrong yes. But I wouldn't say they were done in the name of christianity. Rather they were an extreme and over the top reaction to terrorism, because a lot of the terrorists were supoosedly based in the camps. And things got out of hand. There was also a civil war going on at the time.
    No,it was a cold blooded massacre,and it was religous in nature,the Palestinian combatants had allready left the camp under Jewish supervision.
    The "terrorists"(ha ha) werent there,and the Jews had allready confirmed that,they supervised the removal
    point taken, that was over 30 years ago. End of this part of the thread.
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