Mayweather vs Pac

[Julius Rain]

pac only has good wins over MAB, Morales, and a very close win over JMM, and a drained Oscar. most dont even think he won the 2nd fight with JMM so that only leaves the Barrera and Morales wins.

what does floyd have? oscar and hatton? scratch oscar out pac already beat him far more convincing then floyd and pac is gunning for hatton. pac is a freak of nature the guy has gone up weight more then anybody and still carries his speed and power.

dont forget Corrales, Castillo, Gatti, Judah, etc floyd has more names than Pac does on his list so its no comparison. and are u aware that floyd is a 5 division champ and hasnt been beat nor how can pac beat floyd hmmmmm. u cant answer that cause its never been done FACT

we can make a list and I can add guys similar to the levels of gatti judah castillo corrales but yet you prolly haven't heard of them Floyd does not have more names then pac. Pac has nearly twice more fights then floyd and is younger, plus pac has fought atleast 4 hall of famers.

Floyd is a 5 time division champ, pac is too but at the time there was no ring title when marco was considered as featherweight king. Therfor its only 4 time division champ but 5 time champion for pac.

Pac has gone from 106 to 147, thats 41 pounds! INSANE!

floyd 130 to 154, thats 24 pounds again pac nearly doubles him. Just like if we made a list of fighters each oppenent beat pac would double him again.

OK floyd is undefeated so? does that mean much now a days? it actually just raise an eyebrow for the real boxing fan. it signals, he has a suspect record.

Anyways, like i said talent wise floyd is up there but resume wise his is very suspect. Pac can not be doubted because he clearly fights anybody thats put in front of him. He even considering fighting COTTO! a guy floyd avoided!

[JT Rock]

we can make a list and I can add guys similar to the levels of gatti judah castillo corrales but yet you prolly haven't heard of them Floyd does not have more names then pac. Pac has nearly twice more fights then floyd and is younger, plus pac has fought atleast 4 hall of famers.

Pac beat MAB in his prime and a shot Morales 2x and a shot MAB in a absolute snoozefest got a draw against JMM and got a gift in their 2nd... THATS IT!!!!

so know unless you bring up those guys Floyd has the better resume

[bcollins]

we can make a list and I can add guys similar to the levels of gatti judah castillo corrales but yet you prolly haven't heard of them Floyd does not have more names then pac. Pac has nearly twice more fights then floyd and is younger, plus pac has fought atleast 4 hall of famers.

Pac beat MAB in his prime and a shot Morales 2x and a shot MAB in a absolute snoozefest got a draw against JMM and got a gift in their 2nd... THATS IT!!!!

so know unless you bring up those guys Floyd has the better resume

I wouldn't go so far as to call Morales shot by the second fight - the third, for sure, but he still had something in the tank for the second. Except for the scoring error, Pac would have won the first JMM fight, and the second was close enough to not be regarded as a gift decision (see Valuev-Holyfield). I understand it gets old fighting off the Pac nuthuggers, but those three names are also three future HoFer's. Nothing to blithely disregard.

[JT Rock]

we can make a list and I can add guys similar to the levels of gatti judah castillo corrales but yet you prolly haven't heard of them Floyd does not have more names then pac. Pac has nearly twice more fights then floyd and is younger, plus pac has fought atleast 4 hall of famers.

Pac beat MAB in his prime and a shot Morales 2x and a shot MAB in a absolute snoozefest got a draw against JMM and got a gift in their 2nd... THATS IT!!!!

so know unless you bring up those guys Floyd has the better resume

I wouldn't go so far as to call Morales shot by the second fight - the third, for sure, but he still had something in the tank for the second. Except for the scoring error, Pac would have won the first JMM fight, and the second was close enough to not be regarded as a gift decision (see Valuev-Holyfield). I understand it gets old fighting off the Pac nuthuggers, but those three names are also three future HoFer's. Nothing to blithely disregard.

I dont know man Erik didnt look like Eric the 2nd time around, I know there was a heck of a lot of people who gave JMM the nod in their 2nd fight including myself...

I thought the 1st MAB fight was a thing of beauty the way he dismantled him with ease and Im not even using the BS camp got burned out thing either.. Pac beat his ass fair and square nothing more, nothing less..

So as I dint mean to denigrate as much but Im echoing a vast majoritys sentiment as well

[JT Rock]

The part of this whole empowerment of Levi,Bruce Lee and Julius Rain is that he beat Oscar at 147, when Floyd beat a younger DLH with all the advantages at his optimum fighting weight(154), most were downplaying Floyds win saying DLH was a partime fighter and is mostly a promoter and had slipped and gave him no credit for the win..

But your most Holy Pacquiao does it a year and half later against a shriveled up freeze dried Delahoya and all of a sudden Manny is a world beater

Now he is going to beat Hatton and Floyd yea ok, why not throw Pavlik in there too

[leftylee]

The part of this whole empowerment of Levi,Bruce Lee and Julius Rain is that when Floyd beat a younger DLH with all the advantages at his optimum fighting weight, most were downplaying FLoyds win saying DLH was a partime fighter and is mostly a promoter and had slipped and gave him no credit for the win..

But your most Holy Pacquiao does it a year and half later against a shriveled up freeze dried Delahoya and all of a sudden Manny is a world beater

Now he is going to beat Hatton and Floyd yea ok, why not throw Pavlik in there too

I'm sure he would beat Pavlik. Pavlik just got beat by a 43yr old. Pac is only 30

[C-Lo]

The part of this whole empowerment of Levi,Bruce Lee and Julius Rain is that when Floyd beat a younger DLH with all the advantages at his optimum fighting weight, most were downplaying FLoyds win saying DLH was a partime fighter and is mostly a promoter and had slipped and gave him no credit for the win..

But your most Holy Pacquiao does it a year and half later against a shriveled up freeze dried Delahoya and all of a sudden Manny is a world beater

Now he is going to beat Hatton and Floyd yea ok, why not throw Pavlik in there too

I think the whole appeal of Pac beating De La Hoya was the fact that Pac moved up so much in weight in such a short amount of time and did it when no one gave him a chance to win.

De La Hoya was not the same fighter he was when he fought Floyd and I think it was more about the weight rather than him being shot. When he fights again at 154 I think we'll all see he's still not that bad.

Either way, the weight, size, and predictions were supposedly against Pac and him beating all those odds made the win big for me.

[C-Lo]

pac only has good wins over MAB, Morales, and a very close win over JMM, and a drained Oscar. most dont even think he won the 2nd fight with JMM so that only leaves the Barrera and Morales wins.

what does floyd have? oscar and hatton? scratch oscar out pac already beat him far more convincing then floyd and pac is gunning for hatton. pac is a freak of nature the guy has gone up weight more then anybody and still carries his speed and power.

dont forget Corrales, Castillo, Gatti, Judah, etc floyd has more names than Pac does on his list so its no comparison. and are u aware that floyd is a 5 division champ and hasnt been beat nor how can pac beat floyd hmmmmm. u cant answer that cause its never been done FACT

Yes, Mayweather has better names, but between Morales, Barrera, and JMM, Pacquiao fought 7 fights. Add Oscar's name to that, and those are 4 fighters that are DEFINITELY going to be no-brainers to the hall of fame that Pac has fought and beaten. I don't think that can be said about Floyd's resume.

we can make a list and I can add guys similar to the levels of gatti judah castillo corrales but yet you prolly haven't heard of them Floyd does not have more names then pac. Pac has nearly twice more fights then floyd and is younger, plus pac has fought atleast 4 hall of famers.

Pac beat MAB in his prime and a shot Morales 2x and a shot MAB in a absolute snoozefest got a draw against JMM and got a gift in their 2nd... THATS IT!!!!

so know unless you bring up those guys Floyd has the better resume

I think the keywords are, "unless you bring up those guys." I think it can definitely be argued who has the better resume between Floyd and Manny but I think the reason I stated above would give Pac the nod.

[C-Lo]

Pacquiao's Significant Fights

Barrera
Barrera
Morales
Morales
Morales
Marquez
Marquez
De La Hoya

Mayweather's Significant Fights

Gatti
Corrales
Castillo
Castillo
Judah
De La Hoya
Hatton
Baldomir

Looking at it like that just repeats my main point. Mayweather has more names but Pacquiao's has more quality. Another thing is that I would agree to, on the other hand, is that Floyd in those fights are 8-0 while Manny is 6-1-1.

[JT Rock]

Pacquiao's Significant Fights

Barrera
Barrera
Morales
Morales
Morales
Marquez
Marquez
De La Hoya

Mayweather's Significant Fights

Gatti
Corrales
Castillo
Castillo
Judah
De La Hoya
Hatton
Baldomir
Chavez
Hernandez
Manfrdy

Looking at it like that just repeats my main point. Mayweather has more names but Pacquiao's has more quality. Another thing is that I would agree to, on the other hand, is that Floyd in those fights are 8-0 while Manny is 6-1-1.

I added a few for you since people forget Floyd was a phenom at lower weights

But I think your being more than sensible with your analysis

[Julius Rain]

Pacquiao's Significant Fights

Barrera
Barrera
Morales
Morales
Morales
Marquez
Marquez
De La Hoya
julio (at the time julio was one of the top in the division and pac destroyed him no other can in two rounds)

ledwaba ( underrated but IMO equalled to most of floyds oppenent)

sanchez ( pac should of won this fight, sanchez is a quality oppenent but he is one dirty mofo)

david diaz (if your gonna include gatti)

larios (this guy is underrated)

sasakul (wbc flyweight title, pac took him out in

fahsan 3k battery (featherweight eliminator too fahsan out in 4)

Nedal Hussein ( underrated talent, quality oppenent for sure)

Mayweather's Significant Fights

Gatti
Corrales
Castillo
Castillo
Judah
De La Hoya
Hatton
Baldomir

Looking at it like that just repeats my main point. Mayweather has more names but Pacquiao's has more quality. Another thing is that I would agree to, on the other hand, is that Floyd in those fights are 8-0 while Manny is 6-1-1.

wow is that all you know that pac has beat? even floyds list is missing some good names. Pac has beaten quality oppenents in the lower weight it seem like people are not aware of the quality fighters, thats making people think mab,eric and jmm are pacs only quality oppenent? those are some of the hall of famers but pac has far more quality oppenent then people know of. I guess cause peole dont follow asia or the lower weight divisions.

in red are added.

[C-Lo]

Pacquiao's Significant Fights

Barrera
Barrera
Morales
Morales
Morales
Marquez
Marquez
De La Hoya
julio (at the time julio was one of the top in the division and pac destroyed him no other can in two rounds)

ledwaba ( underrated but IMO equalled to most of floyds oppenent)

sanchez ( pac should of won this fight, sanchez is a quality oppenent but he is one dirty mofo)

david diaz (if your gonna include gatti)

larios (this guy is underrated)

sasakul (wbc flyweight title, pac took him out in

fahsan 3k battery (featherweight eliminator too fahsan out in 4)

Nedal Hussein ( underrated talent, quality oppenent for sure)

Mayweather's Significant Fights

Gatti
Corrales
Castillo
Castillo
Judah
De La Hoya
Hatton
Baldomir

Looking at it like that just repeats my main point. Mayweather has more names but Pacquiao's has more quality. Another thing is that I would agree to, on the other hand, is that Floyd in those fights are 8-0 while Manny is 6-1-1.

wow is that all you know that pac has beat? even floyds list is missing some good names. Pac has beaten quality oppenents in the lower weight it seem like people are not aware of the quality fighters, thats making people think mab,eric and jmm are pacs only quality oppenent? those are some of the hall of famers but pac has far more quality oppenent then people know of. I guess cause peole dont follow asia or the lower weight divisions.

in red are added.

C'mon man, I know about those other people. I said "Significant Fights" and if that needed more clarification the big names they've fought.

[Julius Rain]

C-Lo,

put J.Ts list with mine and its a far better list really.

[Julius Rain]

Pacquiao's Significant Fights

Barrera
Barrera
Morales
Morales
Morales
Marquez
Marquez
De La Hoya
julio (at the time julio was one of the top in the division and pac destroyed him no other can in two rounds)

ledwaba ( underrated but IMO equalled to most of floyds oppenent)

sanchez ( pac should of won this fight, sanchez is a quality oppenent but he is one dirty mofo)

david diaz (if your gonna include gatti)

larios (this guy is underrated)

sasakul (wbc flyweight title, pac took him out in

fahsan 3k battery (featherweight eliminator too fahsan out in 4)

Nedal Hussein ( underrated talent, quality oppenent for sure)

Mayweather's Significant Fights

Gatti
Corrales
Castillo
Castillo
Judah
De La Hoya
Hatton
Baldomir

Looking at it like that just repeats my main point. Mayweather has more names but Pacquiao's has more quality. Another thing is that I would agree to, on the other hand, is that Floyd in those fights are 8-0 while Manny is 6-1-1.

wow is that all you know that pac has beat? even floyds list is missing some good names. Pac has beaten quality oppenents in the lower weight it seem like people are not aware of the quality fighters, thats making people think mab,eric and jmm are pacs only quality oppenent? those are some of the hall of famers but pac has far more quality oppenent then people know of. I guess cause peole dont follow asia or the lower weight divisions.

in red are added.

C'mon man, I know about those other people. I said "Significant Fights" and if that needed more clarification the big names they've fought.

significant fights? or big names? baldomir is not a big name and pacs wbc flyweight title match against sasakul was significant. what do you think?

[Spicoli]

Sorry Ricky,seems your just a formality.Thread spinning sideways .Jorge E.Julio top of division then,good one