Hamed/Marquez

[Fenster]

Regardless of who ducked who JMM would of smacked Naseem Hamed all over the ring, he is a better counter puncher than MAB. And everytime Naseem Hamed would leap in with his wild punches, JMM would of hurt him badly.

I could possible see JMM knocking down Naseem Hamed atleast 2 times en route to a decision win, just because Naseem Hamed's balance was all over the place, and a counter like JMM would for certain take advantage of that.

Nah.. look how many times Marquez has been floored.. if Naz decked ya you stayed decked. Fact.

How many times has JMM been floored ? he's only been floored against world class fighters like the best P4P fighter in the world. And against MAB which was desperation shot, and against Freddie Norwood. He may of been knocked down more in his early fights. But i haven't seen them.

Kevin Kelley had a pretty weak chin yet he was able to slug it out with Naseem Hamed, and deck Naseem Hamed 3 times. Juan Manuel Marquez may not have a granite chin like Marvin Hagler, but his recovery powers are excellent.

Naseem Hamed may knock down JMM but he wouldn't keep him there, and JMM would make Naseem Hamed look stupid in the ring, with his counter punching style. Naseem Hamed would look like a drunken ballerina.

So that's six definite knockdowns. Proves my point. No-one survived Naz once he hurt you. Fact.

Nearly every knockdown Hamed suffered was down to his balance. You know that bad balance you were talking about.

[Violent Demise]

Nah.. look how many times Marquez has been floored.. if Naz decked ya you stayed decked. Fact.

How many times has JMM been floored ? he's only been floored against world class fighters like the best P4P fighter in the world. And against MAB which was desperation shot, and against Freddie Norwood. He may of been knocked down more in his early fights. But i haven't seen them.

Kevin Kelley had a pretty weak chin yet he was able to slug it out with Naseem Hamed, and deck Naseem Hamed 3 times. Juan Manuel Marquez may not have a granite chin like Marvin Hagler, but his recovery powers are excellent.

Naseem Hamed may knock down JMM but he wouldn't keep him there, and JMM would make Naseem Hamed look stupid in the ring, with his counter punching style. Naseem Hamed would look like a drunken ballerina.

So that's six definite knockdowns. Proves my point. No-one survived Naz once he hurt you. Fact.

Nearly every knockdown Hamed suffered was down to his balance. You know that bad balance you were talking about.

Come on now. That's a complete distortion of the truth. He stunned Cesar Soto early. Soto went 12 with him. He had Paul Ingle down and hurt in the 1st. Ingle made it all the way to the 11th. And he had Kevin Kelly hurt in the 2nd. Kelly came back and floored him one more time. And those are straight facts.

[ICB]

How many times has JMM been floored ? he's only been floored against world class fighters like the best P4P fighter in the world. And against MAB which was desperation shot, and against Freddie Norwood. He may of been knocked down more in his early fights. But i haven't seen them.

Kevin Kelley had a pretty weak chin yet he was able to slug it out with Naseem Hamed, and deck Naseem Hamed 3 times. Juan Manuel Marquez may not have a granite chin like Marvin Hagler, but his recovery powers are excellent.

Naseem Hamed may knock down JMM but he wouldn't keep him there, and JMM would make Naseem Hamed look stupid in the ring, with his counter punching style. Naseem Hamed would look like a drunken ballerina.

So that's six definite knockdowns. Proves my point. No-one survived Naz once he hurt you. Fact.

Nearly every knockdown Hamed suffered was down to his balance. You know that bad balance you were talking about.

Come on now. That's a complete distortion of the truth. He stunned Cesar Soto early. Soto went 12 with him. He had Paul Ingle down and hurt in the 1st. Ingle made it all the way to the 11th. And he had Kevin Kelly hurt in the 2nd. Kelly came back and floored him one more time. And those are straight facts.

VD i remember watching a Naseem Hamed fight where he tackled a fighter to the ground and used his knees or something ? ? i watched it when i was very young and i can't remember the fighters name, do you remember it ?

I also remember Manuel Medina being knocked down a few times against Naseem Hamed, yet he survived until the 11th round. And gave Naseem Hamed a very good argument.

[Violent Demise]

So that's six definite knockdowns. Proves my point. No-one survived Naz once he hurt you. Fact.

Nearly every knockdown Hamed suffered was down to his balance. You know that bad balance you were talking about.

Come on now. That's a complete distortion of the truth. He stunned Cesar Soto early. Soto went 12 with him. He had Paul Ingle down and hurt in the 1st. Ingle made it all the way to the 11th. And he had Kevin Kelly hurt in the 2nd. Kelly came back and floored him one more time. And those are straight facts.

VD i remember watching a Naseem Hamed fight where he tackled a fighter to the ground and used his knees or something ? ? i watched it when i was very young and i can't remember the fighters name, do you remember it ?

I also remember Manuel Medina being knocked down a few times against Naseem Hamed, yet he survived until the 11th round. And gave Naseem Hamed a very good argument.

I'm sure it was the Soto fight. It was a dirty fight. Hamed actually body slammed Soto in that fight.

[Fenster]

So that's six definite knockdowns. Proves my point. No-one survived Naz once he hurt you. Fact.

Nearly every knockdown Hamed suffered was down to his balance. You know that bad balance you were talking about.

Come on now. That's a complete distortion of the truth. He stunned Cesar Soto early. Soto went 12 with him. He had Paul Ingle down and hurt in the 1st. Ingle made it all the way to the 11th. And he had Kevin Kelly hurt in the 2nd. Kelly came back and floored him one more time. And those are straight facts.

VD i remember watching a Naseem Hamed fight where he tackled a fighter to the ground and used his knees or something ? ? i watched it when i was very young and i can't remember the fighters name, do you remember it ?

I also remember Manuel Medina being knocked down a few times against Naseem Hamed, yet he survived until the 11th round. And gave Naseem Hamed a very good argument.

That's because Naz had the flu. Fact.

[ICB]

Come on now. That's a complete distortion of the truth. He stunned Cesar Soto early. Soto went 12 with him. He had Paul Ingle down and hurt in the 1st. Ingle made it all the way to the 11th. And he had Kevin Kelly hurt in the 2nd. Kelly came back and floored him one more time. And those are straight facts.

VD i remember watching a Naseem Hamed fight where he tackled a fighter to the ground and used his knees or something ? ? i watched it when i was very young and i can't remember the fighters name, do you remember it ?

I also remember Manuel Medina being knocked down a few times against Naseem Hamed, yet he survived until the 11th round. And gave Naseem Hamed a very good argument.

That's because Naz had the flu. Fact.

What about the other examples VD gave you ? and thanks VD it was the Cesar Soto fight i remember now, its just been years since i've seen it.

[Fenster]

VD i remember watching a Naseem Hamed fight where he tackled a fighter to the ground and used his knees or something ? ? i watched it when i was very young and i can't remember the fighters name, do you remember it ?

I also remember Manuel Medina being knocked down a few times against Naseem Hamed, yet he survived until the 11th round. And gave Naseem Hamed a very good argument.

That's because Naz had the flu. Fact.

What about the other examples VD gave you ? and thanks VD it was the Cesar Soto fight i remember now, its just been years since i've seen it.

The other examples got knocked the fuck out.. or schooled. Fact.

[ICB]

That's because Naz had the flu. Fact.

What about the other examples VD gave you ? and thanks VD it was the Cesar Soto fight i remember now, its just been years since i've seen it.

The other examples got knocked the fuck out.. or schooled. Fact.

In my mind Naseem Hamed's wild punches would never catch a technician like JMM, and Naseem Hamed's style is also made for JMM's counter punching.

[Fenster]

How many times has JMM been floored ? he's only been floored against world class fighters like the best P4P fighter in the world. And against MAB which was desperation shot, and against Freddie Norwood. He may of been knocked down more in his early fights. But i haven't seen them.

Kevin Kelley had a pretty weak chin yet he was able to slug it out with Naseem Hamed, and deck Naseem Hamed 3 times. Juan Manuel Marquez may not have a granite chin like Marvin Hagler, but his recovery powers are excellent.

Naseem Hamed may knock down JMM but he wouldn't keep him there, and JMM would make Naseem Hamed look stupid in the ring, with his counter punching style. Naseem Hamed would look like a drunken ballerina.

So that's six definite knockdowns. Proves my point. No-one survived Naz once he hurt you. Fact.

Nearly every knockdown Hamed suffered was down to his balance. You know that bad balance you were talking about.

Come on now. That's a complete distortion of the truth. He stunned Cesar Soto early. Soto went 12 with him. He had Paul Ingle down and hurt in the 1st. Ingle made it all the way to the 11th. And he had Kevin Kelly hurt in the 2nd. Kelly came back and floored him one more time. And those are straight facts.

Not really a COMPLETE distortion.

So we'll say.. anyone he HURT lost. Fact.

[Violent Demise]

So that's six definite knockdowns. Proves my point. No-one survived Naz once he hurt you. Fact.

Nearly every knockdown Hamed suffered was down to his balance. You know that bad balance you were talking about.

Come on now. That's a complete distortion of the truth. He stunned Cesar Soto early. Soto went 12 with him. He had Paul Ingle down and hurt in the 1st. Ingle made it all the way to the 11th. And he had Kevin Kelly hurt in the 2nd. Kelly came back and floored him one more time. And those are straight facts.

Not really a COMPLETE distortion.

So we'll say.. anyone he HURT lost. Fact.

Works for me