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    Default Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!

    What a lot of Donaire supporters are forgetting is that before Darchinyan starched Mijares all the talk was about a potential Mijares/ Montiel fight, now that Vic has laid waste to Mijares all that attention has shifted to a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight which has the potential to be a great fight!!!

    I want to see a Donaire rematch but its not concievable that its is as big or as attractive or as important as a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight is at this time!

    A fight between Darchinyan/ Montielk will crown a Ring Jr Bantam champion. Its a fight between the #1 & #2 fighters in the division & between the 2 they have pretty much cleaned up the division, so a fight between the 2 is a no brainer to be next!

    Now if Donaire can even get past Martinez (lets face it: he looked like sh*t against Mithalane) then maybe we can talk about a rematch. But by that time Darchinyan may have moved on to more lucrative bout with the likes of Vasquez or Marquez.

    Those that think Darchinyan is ducking Donaire are seriously deluding themselves as I think Vic has proved he will fight anyone! Just because he is deciding to take on higher profile, just as difficult if not moreso than Donaire only means he is trying to increase his star potential & earning potential!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    What a lot of Donaire supporters are forgetting is that before Darchinyan starched Mijares all the talk was about a potential Mijares/ Montiel fight, now that Vic has laid waste to Mijares all that attention has shifted to a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight which has the potential to be a great fight!!!

    I want to see a Donaire rematch but its not concievable that its is as big or as attractive or as important as a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight is at this time!

    A fight between Darchinyan/ Montielk will crown a Ring Jr Bantam champion. Its a fight between the #1 & #2 fighters in the division & between the 2 they have pretty much cleaned up the division, so a fight between the 2 is a no brainer to be next!

    Now if Donaire can even get past Martinez (lets face it: he looked like sh*t against Mithalane) then maybe we can talk about a rematch. But by that time Darchinyan may have moved on to more lucrative bout with the likes of Vasquez or Marquez.

    Those that think Darchinyan is ducking Donaire are seriously deluding themselves as I think Vic has proved he will fight anyone! Just because he is deciding to take on higher profile, just as difficult if not moreso than Donaire only means he is trying to increase his star potential & earning potential!
    I can't forget that Darchi mauled Mijares for I predicted it correctly that Darchi will defeat Mijares... One of the very few who predicted a Darchi win...

    Darchi vs. Montiel will be a good fight but Montiel is already moving to bantamweight and will be fighting for the interim WBO bantamweight title against Eric Morel. A temporary vacancy was created when bantamweight champ Gerry "FEARLESS" Peñalosa is scheduled to challenge WBO super bantam champ JuanMa Lopez.

    As for Mthalane, I consider him a very good boxer... Even Darchinyan might have problems breaking down his tight guards and evading his power counters.

    Darchi is still very far from a Vazquez or Rafa fight. I think he will still have at least one fight at bantamweight before landing in those fights.

    We didn't say that Darchinyan is ducking Donaire... It's Gary Shaw who is avoiding to make a Donaire-Darchinyan rematch fight and since Shaw is part of Team Darchinyan then I think it's correct to say, Team Darchinyan is ducking Nonito Donaire...
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    Default Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    What a lot of Donaire supporters are forgetting is that before Darchinyan starched Mijares all the talk was about a potential Mijares/ Montiel fight, now that Vic has laid waste to Mijares all that attention has shifted to a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight which has the potential to be a great fight!!!

    I want to see a Donaire rematch but its not concievable that its is as big or as attractive or as important as a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight is at this time!

    A fight between Darchinyan/ Montielk will crown a Ring Jr Bantam champion. Its a fight between the #1 & #2 fighters in the division & between the 2 they have pretty much cleaned up the division, so a fight between the 2 is a no brainer to be next!

    Now if Donaire can even get past Martinez (lets face it: he looked like sh*t against Mithalane) then maybe we can talk about a rematch. But by that time Darchinyan may have moved on to more lucrative bout with the likes of Vasquez or Marquez.

    Those that think Darchinyan is ducking Donaire are seriously deluding themselves as I think Vic has proved he will fight anyone! Just because he is deciding to take on higher profile, just as difficult if not moreso than Donaire only means he is trying to increase his star potential & earning potential!
    I can't forget that Darchi mauled Mijares for I predicted it correctly that Darchi will defeat Mijares... One of the very few who predicted a Darchi win...

    Darchi vs. Montiel will be a good fight but Montiel is already moving to bantamweight and will be fighting for the interim WBO bantamweight title against Eric Morel. A temporary vacancy was created when bantamweight champ Gerry "FEARLESS" Peñalosa is scheduled to challenge WBO super bantam champ JuanMa Lopez.

    As for Mthalane, I consider him a very good boxer... Even Darchinyan might have problems breaking down his tight guards and evading his power counters.

    Darchi is still very far from a Vazquez or Rafa fight. I think he will still have at least one fight at bantamweight before landing in those fights.

    We didn't say that Darchinyan is ducking Donaire... It's Gary Shaw who is avoiding to make a Donaire-Darchinyan rematch fight and since Shaw is part of Team Darchinyan then I think it's correct to say, Team Darchinyan is ducking Nonito Donaire...
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    It doesn't look like Montiel is fighting Morel now anyway, plus he has been 118 before (when he fought Gonzalez) & moved back down so I see now reason he wouldn't do the same again for a mega fight with Darchinyan.

    I think Donaire supporters should worry about the upcoming Martinez bout as there is a good chance imo that he get beaten.

    As for Mithalane I don't think he's that good, maybe it was the layoff that effected Donaire or his personal issues at the time.

    You have to think about it logically, I can see where Shaw is coming from & if it was me I'd be upset too & wouldn't want someone who had betrayed me to make money from me & I think you'd be the same!!!
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    Default Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    What a lot of Donaire supporters are forgetting is that before Darchinyan starched Mijares all the talk was about a potential Mijares/ Montiel fight, now that Vic has laid waste to Mijares all that attention has shifted to a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight which has the potential to be a great fight!!!

    I want to see a Donaire rematch but its not concievable that its is as big or as attractive or as important as a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight is at this time!

    A fight between Darchinyan/ Montielk will crown a Ring Jr Bantam champion. Its a fight between the #1 & #2 fighters in the division & between the 2 they have pretty much cleaned up the division, so a fight between the 2 is a no brainer to be next!

    Now if Donaire can even get past Martinez (lets face it: he looked like sh*t against Mithalane) then maybe we can talk about a rematch. But by that time Darchinyan may have moved on to more lucrative bout with the likes of Vasquez or Marquez.

    Those that think Darchinyan is ducking Donaire are seriously deluding themselves as I think Vic has proved he will fight anyone! Just because he is deciding to take on higher profile, just as difficult if not moreso than Donaire only means he is trying to increase his star potential & earning potential!
    I can't forget that Darchi mauled Mijares for I predicted it correctly that Darchi will defeat Mijares... One of the very few who predicted a Darchi win...

    Darchi vs. Montiel will be a good fight but Montiel is already moving to bantamweight and will be fighting for the interim WBO bantamweight title against Eric Morel. A temporary vacancy was created when bantamweight champ Gerry "FEARLESS" Peñalosa is scheduled to challenge WBO super bantam champ JuanMa Lopez.

    As for Mthalane, I consider him a very good boxer... Even Darchinyan might have problems breaking down his tight guards and evading his power counters.

    Darchi is still very far from a Vazquez or Rafa fight. I think he will still have at least one fight at bantamweight before landing in those fights.

    We didn't say that Darchinyan is ducking Donaire... It's Gary Shaw who is avoiding to make a Donaire-Darchinyan rematch fight and since Shaw is part of Team Darchinyan then I think it's correct to say, Team Darchinyan is ducking Nonito Donaire...
    .

    It doesn't look like Montiel is fighting Morel now anyway, plus he has been 118 before (when he fought Gonzalez) & moved back down so I see now reason he wouldn't do the same again for a mega fight with Darchinyan.

    I think Donaire supporters should worry about the upcoming Martinez bout as there is a good chance imo that he get beaten.

    As for Mithalane I don't think he's that good, maybe it was the layoff that effected Donaire or his personal issues at the time.

    You have to think about it logically, I can see where Shaw is coming from & if it was me I'd be upset too & wouldn't want someone who had betrayed me to make money from me & I think you'd be the same!!!

    Why not Shaw look it at the other side of the coin?? Why not let Darchinyan maul Donaire in the rematch and punish that "disloyal/traitor" boxer?? At the same time, Shaw will receive praises from fans eager to watch this rematch fight...
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    Default Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    I can't forget that Darchi mauled Mijares for I predicted it correctly that Darchi will defeat Mijares... One of the very few who predicted a Darchi win...

    Darchi vs. Montiel will be a good fight but Montiel is already moving to bantamweight and will be fighting for the interim WBO bantamweight title against Eric Morel. A temporary vacancy was created when bantamweight champ Gerry "FEARLESS" Peñalosa is scheduled to challenge WBO super bantam champ JuanMa Lopez.

    As for Mthalane, I consider him a very good boxer... Even Darchinyan might have problems breaking down his tight guards and evading his power counters.

    Darchi is still very far from a Vazquez or Rafa fight. I think he will still have at least one fight at bantamweight before landing in those fights.

    We didn't say that Darchinyan is ducking Donaire... It's Gary Shaw who is avoiding to make a Donaire-Darchinyan rematch fight and since Shaw is part of Team Darchinyan then I think it's correct to say, Team Darchinyan is ducking Nonito Donaire...
    .

    It doesn't look like Montiel is fighting Morel now anyway, plus he has been 118 before (when he fought Gonzalez) & moved back down so I see now reason he wouldn't do the same again for a mega fight with Darchinyan.

    I think Donaire supporters should worry about the upcoming Martinez bout as there is a good chance imo that he get beaten.

    As for Mithalane I don't think he's that good, maybe it was the layoff that effected Donaire or his personal issues at the time.

    You have to think about it logically, I can see where Shaw is coming from & if it was me I'd be upset too & wouldn't want someone who had betrayed me to make money from me & I think you'd be the same!!!

    Why not Shaw look it at the other side of the coin?? Why not let Darchinyan maul Donaire in the rematch and punish that "disloyal/traitor" boxer?? At the same time, Shaw will receive praises from fans eager to watch this rematch fight...
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    yeah thats what im thinking.. people defend darchi for not fighting donaire for the simple reason that shaw doesn't like donaire disloyalty.. If darchi is confident enough that he can beat donaires ass then he can tell that to Shaw..

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    Default Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!

    Quote Originally Posted by antimoron View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post


    It doesn't look like Montiel is fighting Morel now anyway, plus he has been 118 before (when he fought Gonzalez) & moved back down so I see now reason he wouldn't do the same again for a mega fight with Darchinyan.

    I think Donaire supporters should worry about the upcoming Martinez bout as there is a good chance imo that he get beaten.

    As for Mithalane I don't think he's that good, maybe it was the layoff that effected Donaire or his personal issues at the time.

    You have to think about it logically, I can see where Shaw is coming from & if it was me I'd be upset too & wouldn't want someone who had betrayed me to make money from me & I think you'd be the same!!!

    Why not Shaw look it at the other side of the coin?? Why not let Darchinyan maul Donaire in the rematch and punish that "disloyal/traitor" boxer?? At the same time, Shaw will receive praises from fans eager to watch this rematch fight...
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    yeah thats what im thinking.. people defend darchi for not fighting donaire for the simple reason that shaw doesn't like donaire disloyalty.. If darchi is confident enough that he can beat donaires ass then he can tell that to Shaw..
    Yeah I agree, but you have to see where Shaw is coming from. If it was me I wouldn't want you making money from me after you betrayed me... its just common sense isn't it?

    Like myself & Eagle have stated on this thread we both feel Darchinyan would be victorious in a rematch & would love to see it happen. But Shaw has taken Darchinyan back to the top & I suppose Darchinyan is happy with the way things have gone & I assume he is showing some loyalty to Shaw by standing by his side in his decision as I would in someone who had done good by me.
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    Default Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by antimoron View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post


    Why not Shaw look it at the other side of the coin?? Why not let Darchinyan maul Donaire in the rematch and punish that "disloyal/traitor" boxer?? At the same time, Shaw will receive praises from fans eager to watch this rematch fight...
    .
    yeah thats what im thinking.. people defend darchi for not fighting donaire for the simple reason that shaw doesn't like donaire disloyalty.. If darchi is confident enough that he can beat donaires ass then he can tell that to Shaw..
    Yeah I agree, but you have to see where Shaw is coming from. If it was me I wouldn't want you making money from me after you betrayed me... its just common sense isn't it?

    Like myself & Eagle have stated on this thread we both feel Darchinyan would be victorious in a rematch & would love to see it happen. But Shaw has taken Darchinyan back to the top & I suppose Darchinyan is happy with the way things have gone & I assume he is showing some loyalty to Shaw by standing by his side in his decision as I would in someone who had done good by me.

    That is what KILLING my favorite sport of boxing...
    its like Don King hates Bob Arum but hey they still work if it makes sense.. dont you think Darchi vs Donaire makes sense?
    Last edited by antimoron; 02-10-2009 at 11:59 PM.

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    Default Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by antimoron View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post


    Why not Shaw look it at the other side of the coin?? Why not let Darchinyan maul Donaire in the rematch and punish that "disloyal/traitor" boxer?? At the same time, Shaw will receive praises from fans eager to watch this rematch fight...
    .
    yeah thats what im thinking.. people defend darchi for not fighting donaire for the simple reason that shaw doesn't like donaire disloyalty.. If darchi is confident enough that he can beat donaires ass then he can tell that to Shaw..
    Yeah I agree, but you have to see where Shaw is coming from. If it was me I wouldn't want you making money from me after you betrayed me... its just common sense isn't it?

    Like myself & Eagle have stated on this thread we both feel Darchinyan would be victorious in a rematch & would love to see it happen. But Shaw has taken Darchinyan back to the top & I suppose Darchinyan is happy with the way things have gone & I assume he is showing some loyalty to Shaw by standing by his side in his decision as I would in someone who had done good by me.
    What Shaw is doing involves boxing politics... We hate boxing politics interfering with the fight we, fans wanted to happen... Boxing politics is not good to our sport...
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    Default Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!

    Some times patience is needed. Darchinyan-Donaire 2 will happen provided both keep winning. To me that's the biggest obstacle. If Darchinyan is to face Montiel next, than losing is highly likely. Donaire needs to concentrate on the task at hand. Like the homie Galaxy said, Martinez is no walk over. He's very capable of beating Donaire. If this fight was taking place in Vegas or some other venue than it's current one I would go with Martinez to win. Good thing for Donaire it's taking place in the Philippines. I don't care how much Martinez dominates Donaire. If he doesn't stop him, he doesn't win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Some times patience is needed. Darchinyan-Donaire 2 will happen provided both keep winning. To me that's the biggest obstacle. If Darchinyan is to face Montiel next, than losing is highly likely. Donaire needs to concentrate on the task at hand. Like the homie Galaxy said, Martinez is no walk over. He's very capable of beating Donaire. If this fight was taking place in Vegas or some other venue than it's current one I would go with Martinez to win. Good thing for Donaire it's taking place in the Philippines. I don't care how much Martinez dominates Donaire. If he doesn't stop him, he doesn't win.

    I'm fully aware that Bro Galaxy and you VD is taking Martinez very seriously but there are some guys like Eagle who belittles this Donaire vs. Martinez fight... I dunno why...

    Yep, Donaire vs. Darchinyan might happen eventually if they keep on winning...
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