best weigh to lose weight quickly and safely

[Howlin Mad Missy]

So essentially a high protein diet/Atkins type thing.


ono -it starts to get very complicated. You start getting in to carbs - those that sugar those that don't - check out how food labels are listed.

Really?

all BS really

I think as soon as you start cutting out a major food group you start craving it. Try going an entire week or two without any form of bread/pasta/rice etc, you'll be craving pizza within days.

[ono]

So essentially a high protein diet/Atkins type thing.


ono -it starts to get very complicated. You start getting in to carbs - those that sugar those that don't - check out how food labels are listed.

Really?

all BS really

I think as soon as you start cutting out a major food group you start craving it. Try going an entire week or two without any form of bread/pasta/rice etc, you'll be craving pizza within days.

I'm very close to a diploma in sports nutrition. The really was meant as sarcasm

I'm not a fan of cutting out carbohydrates. There's better ways to lose weight. Like you say, the average person doesn't have amazing restraint when it comes to food selection and cutting out carbs will eventually lead to a point where the craving gets to badly that the person will likely to return to their old ways. I hear you about the Pizza....espeically with Dominoes just a phone call away

A diet where gradual reduction in carbohydrate is probably the better solution long term. Especially for an athlete. We all saw what happened to Oscar when he followed a low carbohydrate - high protein diet leading up to the Pac fight. He made weight really well......but that's the only positive thing you can really say about his performance.

Sorry mate, I edited your post trying to quote you! fixed it - Adam

[Howlin Mad Missy]

ah. .

Hell, I can't keep up with everyone's private life!

Oscar should smack whoever advised him or if he doesn't have the strength to lift his arms ask Pac to do it.

[ono]

ah. .

Hell, I can't keep up with everyone's private life!

Oscar should smack whoever advised him or if he doesn't have the strength to lift his arms ask Pac to do it.

Lol

I just can't believe Oscar of all people recieved that sort of nutritional advice. It's just plain awful.

He's eaten since the fight so he should just about be able to take his trainer. Just. Depends on how much pac took out of him

[RP33]

"best weigh to lose weight" pun intended?

seriously, if you cut calories but still eat correctly and by the food groups you will lose excess fat. If you workout daily/every other day you will lose fat much quicker. I suppose it all depends on your goal.

Without getting into details like Ono and co., if you have excess "fat" on your body, meaning you're not in good shape, then you don't need a damn diet plan, or even diet book to tell you what to eat. Just exercise and cut calories. You will lose fat so fast.

If you're in good shape and trying to get in better shape, then you should look into talking to a nutritionist and stuff of that sort.

just my opinion and thoughts from my previous experience of losing weight and getting into shape. I was never ever over weight, but i trimmed about 15 lbs in 2 months to get into great shape. Took a little while but doing it the right way paid off.

[Rocky Balboa]

Very simple: there is no quick and easy way. It requires hard work and a basic diet. You don't have to be counting every single calorie, eat smart. Cut back on artificial foods. Live by the rule: "If man made it, don't eat it." Man was made to eat a whole bunch of things not to count his calories. Notice that our ancestors weren't eating a bunch of synthetic foods like we do. Workout hard, eat smart (natural and not too much), and be consistent and you will loose fat. Don't go on some fad diet that the human body wasnt made to do. It's not rocket science just common sense.

[AdamGB]

You can't lose weight quickly and do it safely...

A low Carb diet would be AWFUL idea for a serious athlete... look at oscar De La Hoya's last fight.

As long as you are eating a sensible, nutritious diet I don't think you need anything more than a structured exercises regime incorporating muscle developing exercises and plenty of Anaerobic training to boost your metabolic rate.

It would help us if you told us a few things:

Why are you losing the weight?
How much weight do you have to lose?
What amount of time do you have?
What intensity do you perform at (if at all)?

A misspelled thread title followed by the message '' isn't really going to get you anything at all focused or unvague.

[leggy]

your all thinking im fat or something ? losing weight quickly and safely surley you would of guessed for a bout ?

[Youngblood]

your all thinking im fat or something ? losing weight quickly and safely surley you would of guessed for a bout ?

you give us too much credit for being able to figure things out lol

but I knew why you were leggy, but didn't add anything as it was so close to your fight I don't think you should have messed with your diet then. I think it would only have weakened you. As it turned out you had your fight and won it, so.

[BIG H]

your all thinking im fat or something ? losing weight quickly and safely surley you would of guessed for a bout ?

Fat Koont!!

[James_Teja]

1 hour (speed 7) on StairMaster will kick your butt.

You will lose a thousand calories and 3 lbs instantly (depends on your current weigh). It's favorite gym machine.

[AdamGB]

your all thinking im fat or something ? losing weight quickly and safely surley you would of guessed for a bout ?

It could just of easily been for a holiday or even a date or something... you'd be surprised at the questions we get asked in here!

So... how much weight and what amount of time?

[Snakey]

Id say drop some calories but make sure what your eating is good for you. Id say it would work better with a low calorie high protein diet. Add in some cardio EVERYDAY! Interval training is best as apparently it stops the body from going catabolic and diminishing muscle. Add in some amino acids to help maintain muscle and you should lose fat, weight and still keep muscle. But i could be wrong, just my thoughts.

[Outlaw Immortal]

Some may say it's not safe, but The Cambidge Diet is a great way to lose Weight & Fat very quickly whilst protecting valuable muscle tissue. You will gain the weight back though unless you are VERY careful.

lol...uh-huh.. that doesn't make sense son, please provide published medical records proving that, because I really can't find any on pubmed...lol

Some may say it's not safe, but The Cambidge Diet is a great way to lose Weight & Fat very quickly whilst protecting valuable muscle tissue. You will gain the weight back though unless you are VERY careful.

I fail to see how you can lose fat very quickly whilst protecting muscle tissue. The only way to lose weight very quickly would likely be from seriously dropping calories.....which would result in a severe drop of carbohydrate. The weight loss is likely to be glycogen and water - hence the big drop in bodyweight after only a few days on the diet.

Muscle would obviously be spared due to the lack of carbohydrate.

Unless anybody can enlighten me, i fail to see how these sort of diets preserve muscle tissue. Anyone?

Word up, about time someone gives a normal response.

Thanks Ono.

If you guys haven't noticed, i havent been on the forum that much for 3-4months, i've been cutting down for boxing, and i only started training last week. I cut down from 97kg, now im 83.5-84, and maintained alot of my muscle, my bodyfat currently is at 12%, which im pretty happy as i have no gut anymore. I trained as a bodybuilder rather than a boxer, but the whole principle to dieting is the same, your calories are the only variable as training is different.

Put it this way, if you're a boxer you will end up requiring more calories, because u burn more with running, jogging, skipping, boxing, sparring, so on and so forth.

You can still lose weight with boxing, but you're going to break down more muscle because the training you are doing is a mixture of various exercises that require different primary sources of fuel, i.e. jogging=glycogen from food you just ate in your pre workout meal.

While High intensity interval training (sprint/walk/sprint/walk) uses fat and some glycogen from your pre workout meal, and very little muscle.

Losing muscle is inevitable while dieting to lose weight, you're going to lose it either way, because you are on a calorie deficit diet and you have low insulin levels, therefore its extremely hard to stay anabolic at all times.

Some may say it's not safe, but The Cambidge Diet is a great way to lose Weight & Fat very quickly whilst protecting valuable muscle tissue. You will gain the weight back though unless you are VERY careful.

I fail to see how you can lose fat very quickly whilst protecting muscle tissue. The only way to lose weight very quickly would likely be from seriously dropping calories.....which would result in a severe drop of carbohydrate. The weight loss is likely to be glycogen and water - hence the big drop in bodyweight after only a few days on the diet.

Muscle would obviously be spared due to the lack of carbohydrate.

Unless anybody can enlighten me, i fail to see how these sort of diets preserve muscle tissue. Anyone?

Ketosis is another name for the "fat burning" process. When you start a VLCD (very low calorie diet), during the first one or two days your body uses glucose (a simple sugar stored by the body as the complex carbohydrate glycogen), for its main energy requirements. Once the body has used up its stored carbohydrate, it then switches to its other energy source - unwanted fat. A ketogenic diet is very low in carbohydrate.
The body's stored fat is broken down into little fatty acid molecules called ketones and these circulate taking energy to all the tissues in the body. The Cambridge Diet has been carefully researched and formulated so that when used diets such as Cambridge Diet and Lighter Life, it has just enough carbohydrate for immediate energy and none left over for storage and induces a mild ketosis. The smallest intake of additional carbohydrate can upset this fragile balance and cause carbohydrate to be stored along with water, causing a plateau.
The mild ketosis is an intrinsic part of the design of the a VLCD because it has significant benefits - it is the key to the comfort for the dieter:

• It reduces the feeling of hunger - removing the temptation to err!
• It induces a sense of well-being with good energy levels
  Far from being harmful, ketosis is an important safety factor - the body gets all the energy it needs from the breakdown of its fats stores, thus protecting muscle tissue and vital organs
• Ketones are the products produced by your body when it burns fat. Your body excretes these ketones in the urine and when you breathe out.

AHAHAHAH, bro, ketosis is for obese people, and it should only be used in short term, it also enlarges the glands near your throat if you're on it too long. Ketosis isnt for atheletes, a caloric deficit diet is ideal for losing weight and maintaining muscle.

You can eat pretty much a variety of things if you count it into your macronutrient ratio on a caloric deficit diet. Your diet would roughly look like this: protein each meal, around 8-10g of fats each meal, very little carbohydrates in the morning, a proper amount of carbohydrates pre workout and post workout, 6-7 meals (including shake).

^^
Thats what a normal caloric deficit diet looks like, so you basically have first hand experience from me, ive just come off it, its not some fucked up diet from hollywood, its not even a 'diet', its just science, reducing your carbs and fats, but keeping them at a level where you're just on boarder line.

If you're a male never have your calories below 2000.

ok thats enough from me, once again, thanks for the post Ono, good to see we have some educated people on the forum

[Tilt A Whirl]

So essentially a high protein diet/Atkins type thing.


ono -it starts to get very complicated. You start getting in to carbs - those that sugar those that don't - check out how food labels are listed.

Really?

all BS really

I think as soon as you start cutting out a major food group you start craving it. Try going an entire week or two without any form of bread/pasta/rice etc, you'll be craving pizza within days.

Atkins does work,but its incredibly unhealthy for you