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    Default Re: Is Juan Manuel Marquez Over Rated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Think about it,the fact that we are asking this question at this point in Marquezs career and age speaks to his talent and skills.Honestly asking,how many Marquez fights have you viewed throughout his career??

    Make no mistake,Marquez has earned respect......as has Pacquiao !
    I watched many of marquez's fights and like i said earlier he is a great fighter and hes got some of that animal instinct that barrera or morales had aka when they get hurt they go ballistic. I even a few nights ago i got stuck into some youtube, strictly watching marquez.

    I just think he hasn't got that defining fight under his belt yet and at 35 my be to late.

    Like Pacs got Barrera or even Hoya or even Marquez under his belt
    Barrera's got Hamed etc
    This list goes on when your talking about p4pders.
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    Default Re: Is Juan Manuel Marquez Over Rated?

    Quote Originally Posted by MIKAY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Think about it,the fact that we are asking this question at this point in Marquezs career and age speaks to his talent and skills.Honestly asking,how many Marquez fights have you viewed throughout his career??

    Make no mistake,Marquez has earned respect......as has Pacquiao !
    I watched many of marquez's fights and like i said earlier he is a great fighter and hes got some of that animal instinct that barrera or morales had aka when they get hurt they go ballistic. I even a few nights ago i got stuck into some youtube, strictly watching marquez.

    I just think he hasn't got that defining fight under his belt yet and at 35 my be to late.

    Like Pacs got Barrera or even Hoya or even Marquez under his belt
    Barrera's got Hamed etc
    This list goes on when your talking about p4pders.
    The move up to 135 and KO is is just as good if not more impressive than an old ODLH that has already accepted losing in favor of generating paydays. Getting up from 3 KD's vs Pac is not impressive to you? Manny has one moment and that was vs MAB and that is it. And last of all JMM is tied to the hip with Pac ..... Pac has strength that is the only thing that has kept him from losing to JMM twice. 4 punches that have released a flood gate of Nuthuggers. Take those 4 punches away and JMM has completely schooled him. A 3rd fight is warranted to silence both parties....

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    Default Re: Is Juan Manuel Marquez Over Rated?

    Marquez to me deserves everything he has achieved at this point of his career. I think he has tremendous skills and a huge heart. He has beaten good fighters throughout his career. The only part that I think he's being overrated is when everyone says he has Pacquiao's number. Come to think of it guys. They've fought for 24 rounds. I think 80% of those rounds has been fought in favor of Marquez's pace. Yet Marquez hasn't been able to dominate Pacquiao and win convingly despite this. It was both close. and sure the KD's helped Pac. But when you look at it in another perspective.. why were those fights that close despite the fact that it was JMM's pace? I mean he fought Pac better than Diaz and Casamayor. He was a ten more times better defensively. With that..questions should be raised why didn't he dominate Pacquiao. Why? Because of Pac's power,sturdy chin, improve boxing as he showed in the later rounds of the 2nd fight, and ability to adapt. We give Marquez the props for fighting back after Pac's shining moments. but those are actually few moments that he was facing adversity. While Pacquiao on the other hand, has faced more adversities and has yet to hit the canvass. and we seldom hear fans appreciating his heart on his fights with JMM. That I think is very much overlooked.

    I've seen Pacquiao improve leaps and bounds. While I feel Marquez is on the decline. And when I rewatch the tapes of their battles, I think Pacquiao has learn more and has thrive more than Marquez. The credits I think almost went all to Marquez because he was the underdog and everyone expected Pac to finish him especially after the KD's. Nuthugging aside, IMO Pacquiao has Marquez number.
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