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    Default Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?

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    Oh, come on now he has an Aladdin Sane lightning bolt down the side of his head! It's a monster cut to have, and even if we cannot specify it's depth we can see how long it is and remember how it was spurting and gushing. It's a horrible cut, I don't think it needs debating.

    I don't recall posting at all on the RBR during the fight. I was too busy actually watching it. I posted prior to it starting and afterwards, not at all while the fight was actually happening though. Just because I did not jump into the RBR does not mean I didn't think it should have been stopped. Personally, I would have had it stopped in the second and definitely the doctor should have disallowed Marco to continue in the fourth.
    Many believed it's Marco's warrior attitude that prevented him from saying "I can't see anymore" or "I'm having headache"... Just last week, many also labeled Robert Guerrero a quitter for pulling out from his fight with Yordan in the 2nd round after he suffered a cut that resulted the fight as a no contest (NC)... Would you be upset if Barrera quit after the 1st round?? Would you call him a quitter??
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    I would have been dissapointed for the fight to end like that, but that is the worst cut I have seen in recent memory. If Barrera immediately agreed to a rematch upon the fight being declared a NC then Barrera wouldn't be labelled a quitter. I recall the Guerrero cut being less serious than this was.

    Barrera is too much of a warrior and his corner should have been forcing him to stop. Mistakes were made out there, and Khan now has the scalp of MAB on his record because of it.
    There you go, Guerrero's cut is less serious but he quit...

    Barrera decided to fight on despite a very serious cut and lost by technical decision...

    During the course of the fight, do you have any inkling that Barrera might land that one big punch that can turn the fight around??

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    Default Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    Many believed it's Marco's warrior attitude that prevented him from saying "I can't see anymore" or "I'm having headache"... Just last week, many also labeled Robert Guerrero a quitter for pulling out from his fight with Yordan in the 2nd round after he suffered a cut that resulted the fight as a no contest (NC)... Would you be upset if Barrera quit after the 1st round?? Would you call him a quitter??
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    I would have been dissapointed for the fight to end like that, but that is the worst cut I have seen in recent memory. If Barrera immediately agreed to a rematch upon the fight being declared a NC then Barrera wouldn't be labelled a quitter. I recall the Guerrero cut being less serious than this was.

    Barrera is too much of a warrior and his corner should have been forcing him to stop. Mistakes were made out there, and Khan now has the scalp of MAB on his record because of it.
    There you go, Guerrero's cut is less serious but he quit...

    Barrera decided to fight on despite a very serious cut and lost by technical decision...

    During the course of the fight, do you have any inkling that Barrera might land that one big punch that can turn the fight around??
    It isn't up to him

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    Default Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    Many believed it's Marco's warrior attitude that prevented him from saying "I can't see anymore" or "I'm having headache"... Just last week, many also labeled Robert Guerrero a quitter for pulling out from his fight with Yordan in the 2nd round after he suffered a cut that resulted the fight as a no contest (NC)... Would you be upset if Barrera quit after the 1st round?? Would you call him a quitter??
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    I would have been dissapointed for the fight to end like that, but that is the worst cut I have seen in recent memory. If Barrera immediately agreed to a rematch upon the fight being declared a NC then Barrera wouldn't be labelled a quitter. I recall the Guerrero cut being less serious than this was.

    Barrera is too much of a warrior and his corner should have been forcing him to stop. Mistakes were made out there, and Khan now has the scalp of MAB on his record because of it.
    There you go, Guerrero's cut is less serious but he quit...

    Barrera decided to fight on despite a very serious cut and lost by technical decision...

    During the course of the fight, do you have any inkling that Barrera might land that one big punch that can turn the fight around??
    Barrera should have quit, but I'm not the guy in Barrera's head controlling his thought mechanisms. He must have known he was down on the cards and his performance was seriously hindered by the injury. Really the 4th when he saw the doctor should have been the time to give it a rest.

    I think without the cut Barrera would have tested Khan a lot more and probably knocked him out. I always said Khan would start fast and that Barrera would take a few rounds to adjust to Khans speed. The cut made even doing that nigh on impossible.

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    Default Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?

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    I would have been dissapointed for the fight to end like that, but that is the worst cut I have seen in recent memory. If Barrera immediately agreed to a rematch upon the fight being declared a NC then Barrera wouldn't be labelled a quitter. I recall the Guerrero cut being less serious than this was.

    Barrera is too much of a warrior and his corner should have been forcing him to stop. Mistakes were made out there, and Khan now has the scalp of MAB on his record because of it.
    There you go, Guerrero's cut is less serious but he quit...

    Barrera decided to fight on despite a very serious cut and lost by technical decision...

    During the course of the fight, do you have any inkling that Barrera might land that one big punch that can turn the fight around??
    Barrera should have quit, but I'm not the guy in Barrera's head controlling his thought mechanisms. He must have known he was down on the cards and his performance was seriously hindered by the injury. Really the 4th when he saw the doctor should have been the time to give it a rest.

    I think without the cut Barrera would have tested Khan a lot more and probably knocked him out. I always said Khan would start fast and that Barrera would take a few rounds to adjust to Khans speed. The cut made even doing that nigh on impossible.
    Aside from the warrior attitude, what's your assessment why Barrera continued to fight on?? Isn't it Barrera thinking of winning the fight, right??
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    I would have been dissapointed for the fight to end like that, but that is the worst cut I have seen in recent memory. If Barrera immediately agreed to a rematch upon the fight being declared a NC then Barrera wouldn't be labelled a quitter. I recall the Guerrero cut being less serious than this was.

    Barrera is too much of a warrior and his corner should have been forcing him to stop. Mistakes were made out there, and Khan now has the scalp of MAB on his record because of it.
    There you go, Guerrero's cut is less serious but he quit...

    Barrera decided to fight on despite a very serious cut and lost by technical decision...

    During the course of the fight, do you have any inkling that Barrera might land that one big punch that can turn the fight around??
    Barrera should have quit, but I'm not the guy in Barrera's head controlling his thought mechanisms. He must have known he was down on the cards and his performance was seriously hindered by the injury. Really the 4th when he saw the doctor should have been the time to give it a rest.

    I think without the cut Barrera would have tested Khan a lot more and probably knocked him out. I always said Khan would start fast and that Barrera would take a few rounds to adjust to Khans speed. The cut made even doing that nigh on impossible.
    Aside from the warrior attitude, what's your assessment why Barrera continued to fight on?? Isn't it Barrera thinking of winning the fight even with that serious cut, right??
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    Last edited by XaduBoxer; 03-16-2009 at 10:32 AM.

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    Default Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    There you go, Guerrero's cut is less serious but he quit...

    Barrera decided to fight on despite a very serious cut and lost by technical decision...

    During the course of the fight, do you have any inkling that Barrera might land that one big punch that can turn the fight around??
    Barrera should have quit, but I'm not the guy in Barrera's head controlling his thought mechanisms. He must have known he was down on the cards and his performance was seriously hindered by the injury. Really the 4th when he saw the doctor should have been the time to give it a rest.

    I think without the cut Barrera would have tested Khan a lot more and probably knocked him out. I always said Khan would start fast and that Barrera would take a few rounds to adjust to Khans speed. The cut made even doing that nigh on impossible.
    Aside from the warrior attitude, what's your assessment why Barrera continued to fight on?? Isn't it Barrera thinking of winning the fight, right??
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    I don't know. I would love to find out what the doctor said to Barrera and what Barrera said back to him. There was no need to carry on with such a disadvantage.

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    Default Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    Barrera should have quit, but I'm not the guy in Barrera's head controlling his thought mechanisms. He must have known he was down on the cards and his performance was seriously hindered by the injury. Really the 4th when he saw the doctor should have been the time to give it a rest.

    I think without the cut Barrera would have tested Khan a lot more and probably knocked him out. I always said Khan would start fast and that Barrera would take a few rounds to adjust to Khans speed. The cut made even doing that nigh on impossible.
    Aside from the warrior attitude, what's your assessment why Barrera continued to fight on?? Isn't it Barrera thinking of winning the fight, right??
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    I don't know. I would love to find out what the doctor said to Barrera and what Barrera said back to him. There was no need to carry on with such a disadvantage.
    IMO, Barrera decided to fight on thinking of winning the fight by shatering Amir's glass jaw... What's the purpose of continuing to fight is definitely to eventually win the fight... I still have to met a boxer who decided to fight on just to achieve a draw or worst, to get a loss...
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    Default Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    Aside from the warrior attitude, what's your assessment why Barrera continued to fight on?? Isn't it Barrera thinking of winning the fight, right??
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    I don't know. I would love to find out what the doctor said to Barrera and what Barrera said back to him. There was no need to carry on with such a disadvantage.
    IMO, Barrera decided to fight on thinking of winning the fight by shatering Amir's glass jaw... What's the purpose of continuing to fight is definitely to eventually win the fight... I still have to met a boxer who decided to fight on just to achieve a draw or worst, to get a loss...
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    obviously every fighter thinks they can win the fight, no one is gonna go on with an attitude of "shit, i'm done and have nothing left, but let me continue to take damage" that'd be an idiot bud, stop trying to instigate, Arce aside from maybe one round was getting hammered and mauled against Darchinyan yet continued on until they finally stepped in and decided he couldn't continue

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    I don't know. I would love to find out what the doctor said to Barrera and what Barrera said back to him. There was no need to carry on with such a disadvantage.
    IMO, Barrera decided to fight on thinking of winning the fight by shatering Amir's glass jaw... What's the purpose of continuing to fight is definitely to eventually win the fight... I still have to met a boxer who decided to fight on just to achieve a draw or worst, to get a loss...
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    obviously every fighter thinks they can win the fight, no one is gonna go on with an attitude of "shit, i'm done and have nothing left, but let me continue to take damage" that'd be an idiot bud, stop trying to instigate, Arce aside from maybe one round was getting hammered and mauled against Darchinyan yet continued on until they finally stepped in and decided he couldn't continue
    They decided to continue fighting coz they're still hoping to land that punch that can turn the fight around... Warrior attitude is also one reason... They're hesitant to call it quits... They want a 3rd party (doctor, referee) to do it for them to save them the criticism of being labeled as a quitter...
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    Default Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?

    they all think they can win. I'm sure Nicky Cook after getting knocked down twice and getting up on shaky legs thought he could win. Thats why the corner is there, the ref is there and the doctor is there.

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