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    Default Re: And used to think L Holmes was a jerk BEFORE this week

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    seriously if boxing was all about technique.

    Lets all follow Larry Holmes and be robots that fight the same way.

    Ali used to beat him up in sparring in his mid age years, so how Larry could call him overrated is beyond me
    A robot that fights the sameway are you kidding me seriously ? Larry Holmes relied on the jab alot but he could also brawl which he showed in many fights, he could also use movement very well like Muhammad Ali, and he could be the aggressor.

    And he was a very good athletic Heavyweight, i think you need to watch more Larry Holmes fights before you make a comment like that again. And lastly Larry Holmes was a novice when he sparred with Muhammad Ali in 1972, he wasn't even a pro yet i don't believe. He was half the fighter he then compared to his peak in 1978.
    You do realize my comment wasn't even about Larry Holmes fighting style right?

    My comment was about Holmes statement saying because of Ali's style and not using the basics that he was overrated. So I said lets all follow what he said and fight the same way. Boxing is about styles and what makes a boxer unique and just because a fighter fights with his hands down or leans back with his hands down doesnt make him overrated which is what Holmes was basically saying. Thats why i made the lets all be robots comment.

    I wasn't talking about his style i was talking about how close minded his statement about Ali was.
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    I believe Larry Holmes to be one of the best Heavyweights ever, he is in my top 10. He carries a fairly large chip on his shoulder though and this is always evident in his interviews. He beat up on an old and tired Ali and he gets the blame for that, he had a close win against Norton but never got the chance to fight Foreman who retired prematurely before his reign. He missed the golden era of the 70's with Foreman, Frazier and Ali battling amongst themselves and then he eventually loses to Spinks who he thinks he beat twice but he loses both closely. He gets smashed by Iron Mike and that is pretty much it for Larry and i guess he feels hardly done by in the whole scheme of things.
    Holmes need not worry to much, real boxing fans know he was good.
    Get over it Larry and get on with life, stop whining about the past and what could have been, you were a great champion and nobody has forgotten it.

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    Default Re: And used to think L Holmes was a jerk BEFORE this week

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    I believe Larry Holmes to be one of the best Heavyweights ever, he is in my top 10. He carries a fairly large chip on his shoulder though and this is always evident in his interviews. He beat up on an old and tired Ali and he gets the blame for that, he had a close win against Norton but never got the chance to fight Foreman who retired prematurely before his reign. He missed the golden era of the 70's with Foreman, Frazier and Ali battling amongst themselves and then he eventually loses to Spinks who he thinks he beat twice but he loses both closely. He gets smashed by Iron Mike and that is pretty much it for Larry and i guess he feels hardly done by in the whole scheme of things.
    Holmes need not worry to much, real boxing fans know he was good.
    Get over it Larry and get on with life, stop whining about the past and what could have been, you were a great champion and nobody has forgotten it.
    Good post ...... I also agree that Larry is an all time great who would have been competitive against anyone who ever lived (he may not have won them all, but he'd have gone down with all guns blazing)

    Still, I can;t help thinking that if Holmes didn't have the chip on his shoulder, the nagging sense of injustice, the conspiracy theories and the ego - he would not have been half the great fighter that he was.
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