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    Default Re: FROCH v TAYLOR - 25/4/09 - ITV1 Sunday replay!

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    Bute and Kessler, both of whom have legitimate power beyond that of Jermaine Taylor, were landing almost at will against Andrade and he walked right through it. Taylor hurt Froch several times in this fight. Also, Mack may have dropped Andrade, which excellent punches, but Andrade never seemed seriously hurt.

    Bute doesn't really have power. Since stepping up to world class level he's nearly always taken the distance, even a shot William Joppy went 10 rounds. His only big KO was against Berrio but he'd already been knocked out about 5 times before.

    Bute wouldn't have the power to hurt Froch, Froch would knock him out in the late rounds. Kessler is a big puncher but if I recall against Andrade it was all jabs.

    I'd pick Froch over Andrade if they ever meet. Oh and Alan Green beats Andrade too
    I disagree with almost everything you say (respectfully). Bute may not have the power his record indicates, but I'd wager he hits siginificantly harder than Jermaine Taylor, and Taylor had Froch hurt on numerous occasions.

    As for the Kessler - Andrade fight, I recall Kessler's 1-2 being the story of that fight. Andrade ate a ton of straight right hands.

    Andrade - Froch is close to a pick'em IMO, but I side with Andrade. And Andrade would absoluletly ruin Allan Green who's biggest claim to fame is beating up on mediocre fighters.
    Nothing wrong with respectful disagreement. Bute won't be champion for long, if Froch gets to him he's being knocked out. Froch beats Andrade imo. Froch has just won a world title beating the undefeated Jean Pascal and then just ko'd one of the world's best middleweight fighters.

    Andrade has yet to win a significant fight, he always comes up short, although the Bute loss was obviously bitterly controversial.

    I'd put Andrade on a level similar to Sakio Bika, a tough tough fighter but not quite good enough to be a world champ. Froch would beat him, in my respectful opinion of course.

    And you seriously underate Alan Green, he's going to be making a lot of noise over the next 18 months.

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    Default Re: FROCH v TAYLOR - 25/4/09 - ITV1 Sunday replay!

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    Bute doesn't really have power. Since stepping up to world class level he's nearly always taken the distance, even a shot William Joppy went 10 rounds. His only big KO was against Berrio but he'd already been knocked out about 5 times before.

    Bute wouldn't have the power to hurt Froch, Froch would knock him out in the late rounds. Kessler is a big puncher but if I recall against Andrade it was all jabs.

    I'd pick Froch over Andrade if they ever meet. Oh and Alan Green beats Andrade too
    I disagree with almost everything you say (respectfully). Bute may not have the power his record indicates, but I'd wager he hits siginificantly harder than Jermaine Taylor, and Taylor had Froch hurt on numerous occasions.

    As for the Kessler - Andrade fight, I recall Kessler's 1-2 being the story of that fight. Andrade ate a ton of straight right hands.

    Andrade - Froch is close to a pick'em IMO, but I side with Andrade. And Andrade would absoluletly ruin Allan Green who's biggest claim to fame is beating up on mediocre fighters.
    Nothing wrong with respectful disagreement. Bute won't be champion for long, if Froch gets to him he's being knocked out. Froch beats Andrade imo. Froch has just won a world title beating the undefeated Jean Pascal and then just ko'd one of the world's best middleweight fighters.

    Andrade has yet to win a significant fight, he always comes up short, although the Bute loss was obviously bitterly controversial.

    I'd put Andrade on a level similar to Sakio Bika, a tough tough fighter but not quite good enough to be a world champ. Froch would beat him, in my respectful opinion of course.

    And you seriously underate Alan Green, he's going to be making a lot of noise over the next 18 months.



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    Default Re: FROCH v TAYLOR - 25/4/09 - ITV1 Sunday replay!

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    I disagree with almost everything you say (respectfully). Bute may not have the power his record indicates, but I'd wager he hits siginificantly harder than Jermaine Taylor, and Taylor had Froch hurt on numerous occasions.

    As for the Kessler - Andrade fight, I recall Kessler's 1-2 being the story of that fight. Andrade ate a ton of straight right hands.

    Andrade - Froch is close to a pick'em IMO, but I side with Andrade. And Andrade would absoluletly ruin Allan Green who's biggest claim to fame is beating up on mediocre fighters.
    Nothing wrong with respectful disagreement. Bute won't be champion for long, if Froch gets to him he's being knocked out. Froch beats Andrade imo. Froch has just won a world title beating the undefeated Jean Pascal and then just ko'd one of the world's best middleweight fighters.

    Andrade has yet to win a significant fight, he always comes up short, although the Bute loss was obviously bitterly controversial.

    I'd put Andrade on a level similar to Sakio Bika, a tough tough fighter but not quite good enough to be a world champ. Froch would beat him, in my respectful opinion of course.

    And you seriously underate Alan Green, he's going to be making a lot of noise over the next 18 months.



    With 85% of his colon missing I bet he makes plenty of noise all the time


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    Default Re: FROCH v TAYLOR - 25/4/09 - ITV1 Sunday replay!

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    Bute doesn't really have power. Since stepping up to world class level he's nearly always taken the distance, even a shot William Joppy went 10 rounds. His only big KO was against Berrio but he'd already been knocked out about 5 times before.

    Bute wouldn't have the power to hurt Froch, Froch would knock him out in the late rounds. Kessler is a big puncher but if I recall against Andrade it was all jabs.

    I'd pick Froch over Andrade if they ever meet. Oh and Alan Green beats Andrade too
    I disagree with almost everything you say (respectfully). Bute may not have the power his record indicates, but I'd wager he hits siginificantly harder than Jermaine Taylor, and Taylor had Froch hurt on numerous occasions.

    As for the Kessler - Andrade fight, I recall Kessler's 1-2 being the story of that fight. Andrade ate a ton of straight right hands.

    Andrade - Froch is close to a pick'em IMO, but I side with Andrade. And Andrade would absoluletly ruin Allan Green who's biggest claim to fame is beating up on mediocre fighters.
    Nothing wrong with respectful disagreement. Bute won't be champion for long, if Froch gets to him he's being knocked out. Froch beats Andrade imo. Froch has just won a world title beating the undefeated Jean Pascal and then just ko'd one of the world's best middleweight fighters.

    Andrade has yet to win a significant fight, he always comes up short, although the Bute loss was obviously bitterly controversial.

    I'd put Andrade on a level similar to Sakio Bika, a tough tough fighter but not quite good enough to be a world champ. Froch would beat him, in my respectful opinion of course.

    And you seriously underate Alan Green, he's going to be making a lot of noise over the next 18 months.
    The only noise Green is going to make will result from his head bouncing off the canvas as soon as he steps up in class.

    I don't think he's a bad fighter, though I very much dislike him, but he's level of opposition is extremely unimpressive so far. He could prove me wrong, but until he does my opinion of him will not change.

    Oh, and I think Bute outboxes Froch handily. Potentially stopping him.

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