My take on Froch - Taylor...

[BIG H]

Froch would've had a 10-7 round 12, if Taylor had've made the end, which would've at least given him a draw imo.

true about the 10-7 round but still on my card Taylor would have won 114-112, close enough and not out of the question if you ask me

I suppose if youve never seen guys like froch/calzaghe fight you can be misleaded into thinking that they lose rounds because they dont neccesarily throw the heaviest punches.

But for much of the fight and even rounds that carl lost he was the one on the front foot as opposed to taylor who was fighting in spurts.

There was at least 2/3 rounds that you either would of had to score from frochs all round dominance or taylors power punching....its tough to call

Yeh, very hard rounds to score, but I had Taylor probably 2 points up going into the last, so it was very close imo. Doesn't really matter now, coz Froch did the business in the end.

[HattonTheHammer]

true about the 10-7 round but still on my card Taylor would have won 114-112, close enough and not out of the question if you ask me

I suppose if youve never seen guys like froch/calzaghe fight you can be misleaded into thinking that they lose rounds because they dont neccesarily throw the heaviest punches.

But for much of the fight and even rounds that carl lost he was the one on the front foot as opposed to taylor who was fighting in spurts.

There was at least 2/3 rounds that you either would of had to score from frochs all round dominance or taylors power punching....its tough to call

Yeh, very hard rounds to score, but I had Taylor probably 2 points up going into the last, so it was very close imo. Doesn't really matter now, coz Froch did the business in the end.

too true

hope froch gets the credit for this though

he knocked out a far stronger, faster opponent through intelligence, a cool head and sheer determination!!

[ElTerribleMorales]

I suppose if youve never seen guys like froch/calzaghe fight you can be misleaded into thinking that they lose rounds because they dont neccesarily throw the heaviest punches.

But for much of the fight and even rounds that carl lost he was the one on the front foot as opposed to taylor who was fighting in spurts.

There was at least 2/3 rounds that you either would of had to score from frochs all round dominance or taylors power punching....its tough to call

Yeh, very hard rounds to score, but I had Taylor probably 2 points up going into the last, so it was very close imo. Doesn't really matter now, coz Froch did the business in the end.

too true

hope froch gets the credit for this though

he knocked out a far stronger, faster opponent through intelligence, a cool head and sheer determination!!

i give Froch full credit like i said in the other thread, i just would like to see a rematch

[Tam Seddon]

Yeh, very hard rounds to score, but I had Taylor probably 2 points up going into the last, so it was very close imo. Doesn't really matter now, coz Froch did the business in the end.

too true

hope froch gets the credit for this though

he knocked out a far stronger, faster opponent through intelligence, a cool head and sheer determination!!

i give Froch full credit like i said in the other thread, i just would like to see a rematch

Why? to see the exact same thing happen again ? Taylor cant take such pressure, he executed his perfect game plan and it didnt work. He doesnt have the stamina to beat Carl Froch. Taylor is through the more and more I think about it.

[ElTerribleMorales]

too true

hope froch gets the credit for this though

he knocked out a far stronger, faster opponent through intelligence, a cool head and sheer determination!!

i give Froch full credit like i said in the other thread, i just would like to see a rematch

Why? to see the exact same thing happen again ? Taylor cant take such pressure, he executed his perfect game plan and it didnt work. He doesnt have the stamina to beat Carl Froch. Taylor is through the more and more I think about it.

don't get ahead of yourself, it was a good win for Froch but he had NO ANSWER WHAT SO EVER for Taylor's jab, once Taylor stopped using the jab is when Froch was finally able to do anything, and Taylor pretty much broke the myth of Froch's granite chin, he has a very good chin but it's hardly granite, or iron, or even cement lol, Penalosa has a granite chin

[clintuk]

I think Taylor earnt a rematch but whether Froch takes it or not is debatable, especially when he has the opportunity to call out the other belt holders at SMW.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think Taylor earnt a rematch but whether Froch takes it or not is debatable, especially when he has the opportunity to call out the other belt holders at SMW.

agree with you there, and Froch earned the right (especially taking his age into consideration) to try and get the most money available to him, but down the line i think Taylor should get his rematch

[RP33]

I suppose if youve never seen guys like froch/calzaghe fight you can be misleaded into thinking that they lose rounds because they dont neccesarily throw the heaviest punches.

But for much of the fight and even rounds that carl lost he was the one on the front foot as opposed to taylor who was fighting in spurts.

There was at least 2/3 rounds that you either would of had to score from frochs all round dominance or taylors power punching....its tough to call

Yeh, very hard rounds to score, but I had Taylor probably 2 points up going into the last, so it was very close imo. Doesn't really matter now, coz Froch did the business in the end.

too true

hope froch gets the credit for this though

he knocked out a far stronger, faster opponent through intelligence, a cool head and sheer determination!!

After taking the weekend off to cool down from this fight, this is my first post on this topic..

I would agree that he KO'd Taylor with a cool head and determination.. not with intelligence though.. If you're going to say that he waited until Jermain gassed out to KO him, then that isn't true.. He knew in the back of his mind that there was a strong possibility that it would happen, and then in the later, championship rounds, he would have his best chance to do so.. But it wasn't like he was trying to weather the storm until then, and then come on in th e end.. He went back to his corner in a number of rounds saying "i got that round", or "i have him", when he was being beat on throughout the round.. Froch's trainer was definitely trying to make Froch aware that he was losing rounds, and needed to fight NOW.. It wasn't a, "You lost that round, but he expended a lot of energy, conserve yours so you can come on strong i na round or two".. There was definitely a sense of urgency since the middle of the fight, and Froch was still losing rounds..

I can't take ANYTHING away from Froch in this fight, his strength won him the fight.. It was Taylor's fight to lose, and he blew it.. Even if it was a 10-7 round, Taylor would've won a SD according to the judges.. 16 seconds from beating an undefeated champion, and getting a belt back becoming world champion again..

To be honest, I don't really see how Froch fans can say, "That's exactly how i saw the fight going." While i can understand, that on paper, the fight probably went as many of you figured, with JT winning early rounds, then Froch KO'ing him.. But if you watched the fight, it was absolutely the only way for Froch to win.. with 16 seconds left, mind you.. I am not sure that's "exactly" what fans predicted..

Taylor has underrated power, but at 168, there are several significant harder hitters.. Froch is going to have a hard time beating the other top dogs in the division, IMO.. I think Kessler would jab him to death, and Pavlik would stalk him down and hurt him.. He could probably KO Bute and Andrade, but neither of those would be a lock.

As far as styles go, i see Kessler being a nightmare for Froch. Kessler does not take many risks, and really keeps his distance.. Froch/Pavlik would be a hell of a battle, though.

Props to Froch for keeping his cool and finishing his opponent under pressure..