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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

    I actually really like this fight. Tough ask for Floyd, you guys saying this is easy are forgetting just how small Floyd is.

    Spinks is a legitimate junior middleweight and has even fought for the undisputed middleweight world title. Floyd's natural weight class is probably 140 right now so even at welter he's giving a lot of size away.

    After more than a year out, going straight into a world title fight with Cory Spinks, who hasn't been beaten decisively since the second Zab Judah fight and was arguably unlucky to have lost to both Jermain Taylor and Verno Phillips.

    I'd make it 60/40 in favour of Floyd but Cory has a great chance imo.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

    Spicoli & Bilbo are both making sense to me.

    If I had to pick an outcome I'd say that Mayweather outpoints Spinks with a SD.

    In my eyes losing to Spinks (no matter how much bigger he is) would wipe Mayweather off the historical map.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

    I think Mayweather can ko Spinks. It should be an ok fight. I won't buy it, but I do not knock Mayweather on this decision. I think Spinks is a proper opponent and good challenge for a comeback fight.

    I too get the feeling it's a going to be a little boring though. A lot of feinting and premature punch dodging.

    I do hope Mayweather shines though and gets him out inside of 10 rounds.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

    Quote Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla View Post
    Spicoli & Bilbo are both making sense to me.

    If I had to pick an outcome I'd say that Mayweather outpoints Spinks with a SD.

    In my eyes losing to Spinks (no matter how much bigger he is) would wipe Mayweather off the historical map.
    Agree that Mayweather cannot lose this fight if he wants to have another big fight ever again.. which is where the huge risk lies in a tune up fight.. but to say it will be an SD may be just as bad as a loss..

    I see Floyd fighting to a UD by a clear 3-4 round margin. Spinks is bigger and is still pretty quick, but I don't give him much of a chance in this fight considering he does not have KO power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I actually really like this fight. Tough ask for Floyd, you guys saying this is easy are forgetting just how small Floyd is.

    Spinks is a legitimate junior middleweight and has even fought for the undisputed middleweight world title. Floyd's natural weight class is probably 140 right now so even at welter he's giving a lot of size away.

    After more than a year out, going straight into a world title fight with Cory Spinks, who hasn't been beaten decisively since the second Zab Judah fight and was arguably unlucky to have lost to both Jermain Taylor and Verno Phillips.

    I'd make it 60/40 in favour of Floyd but Cory has a great chance imo.
    I only quoted Bilbo on this so this post would show up again.. Just for everyone who was complaining about Floyd picking on the "smaller" Ricky Hatton. Just makes me chuckle..

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

    Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla View Post
    Spicoli & Bilbo are both making sense to me.

    If I had to pick an outcome I'd say that Mayweather outpoints Spinks with a SD.

    In my eyes losing to Spinks (no matter how much bigger he is) would wipe Mayweather off the historical map.
    Agree that Mayweather cannot lose this fight if he wants to have another big fight ever again.. which is where the huge risk lies in a tune up fight.. but to say it will be an SD may be just as bad as a loss..

    I see Floyd fighting to a UD by a clear 3-4 round margin. Spinks is bigger and is still pretty quick, but I don't give him much of a chance in this fight considering he does not have KO power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I actually really like this fight. Tough ask for Floyd, you guys saying this is easy are forgetting just how small Floyd is.

    Spinks is a legitimate junior middleweight and has even fought for the undisputed middleweight world title. Floyd's natural weight class is probably 140 right now so even at welter he's giving a lot of size away.

    After more than a year out, going straight into a world title fight with Cory Spinks, who hasn't been beaten decisively since the second Zab Judah fight and was arguably unlucky to have lost to both Jermain Taylor and Verno Phillips.

    I'd make it 60/40 in favour of Floyd but Cory has a great chance imo.
    I only quoted Bilbo on this so this post would show up again.. Just for everyone who was complaining about Floyd picking on the "smaller" Ricky Hatton. Just makes me chuckle..

    Yeah Floyd and Ricky are really meant for the same weight class. Floyd would beat Ricky whatever weight they fought at.


    Oh and let me also say this. Cory Spinks is a MUCH tougher opponent than Juan Manuel Marquez. Marquez style plays straight into Floyd Mayweather and he would knock Marquez out I have no doubt.

    Spinks is one awkward fighter though although he seems to have slipped of late and now like Winky is much more flat footed in times past. His chin is suspect too so I'd give Floyd the edge. But its a far bigger risk than taking on Marquez imo.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla View Post
    Spicoli & Bilbo are both making sense to me.

    If I had to pick an outcome I'd say that Mayweather outpoints Spinks with a SD.

    In my eyes losing to Spinks (no matter how much bigger he is) would wipe Mayweather off the historical map.
    Agree that Mayweather cannot lose this fight if he wants to have another big fight ever again.. which is where the huge risk lies in a tune up fight.. but to say it will be an SD may be just as bad as a loss..

    I see Floyd fighting to a UD by a clear 3-4 round margin. Spinks is bigger and is still pretty quick, but I don't give him much of a chance in this fight considering he does not have KO power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I actually really like this fight. Tough ask for Floyd, you guys saying this is easy are forgetting just how small Floyd is.

    Spinks is a legitimate junior middleweight and has even fought for the undisputed middleweight world title. Floyd's natural weight class is probably 140 right now so even at welter he's giving a lot of size away.

    After more than a year out, going straight into a world title fight with Cory Spinks, who hasn't been beaten decisively since the second Zab Judah fight and was arguably unlucky to have lost to both Jermain Taylor and Verno Phillips.

    I'd make it 60/40 in favour of Floyd but Cory has a great chance imo.
    I only quoted Bilbo on this so this post would show up again.. Just for everyone who was complaining about Floyd picking on the "smaller" Ricky Hatton. Just makes me chuckle..

    Yeah Floyd and Ricky are really meant for the same weight class. Floyd would beat Ricky whatever weight they fought at.


    Oh and let me also say this. Cory Spinks is a MUCH tougher opponent than Juan Manuel Marquez. Marquez style plays straight into Floyd Mayweather and he would knock Marquez out I have no doubt.

    Spinks is one awkward fighter though although he seems to have slipped of late and now like Winky is much more flat footed in times past. His chin is suspect too so I'd give Floyd the edge. But its a far bigger risk than taking on Marquez imo.
    Spinks tougher than Marquez? I don't see it! I thought Mayorga beat him, Judah should have stopped him twice but he lost focus & let Spinks of the hook. Bearly survived Karmazin & struggled with both Phillips & Latimore! Marquez would knock Spinks out, & a fight with Mayweather would be extremely difficult imo...
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

    Yes I really do think JMM would knock out Spinks!!!

    History is littered with smaller guys beating bigger men! Just because your bigger doesn't necessarily mean better & I'll only use the Pacquiao fight to illustrate that, not compare.

    Spinks used to be very slick, but even at his best at 147 he was never great! Hell I had the very crude Mayorga beating him! Plus his chin leaves a lot to be desired & an excellent technician like Marquez would have no trouble with Spinks.

    Marquez is 135 now & I agree it would be a big step up to 154, but although Spinks is the bigger man he does not fight in a way that it would be to his advantage! Sure he has height & reach but Marquez is a brilliant fighter!!!

    As to Mayweather/ JMM who's to say Floyd won't return at 147 thats not that far apart... & again the bigger Mayweather fights defensively!
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Yes I really do think JMM would knock out Spinks!!!

    History is littered with smaller guys beating bigger men! Just because your bigger doesn't necessarily mean better & I'll only use the Pacquiao fight to illustrate that, not compare.

    Spinks used to be very slick, but even at his best at 147 he was never great! Hell I had the very crude Mayorga beating him! Plus his chin leaves a lot to be desired & an excellent technician like Marquez would have no trouble with Spinks.

    Marquez is 135 now & I agree it would be a big step up to 154, but although Spinks is the bigger man he does not fight in a way that it would be to his advantage! Sure he has height & reach but Marquez is a brilliant fighter!!!

    As to Mayweather/ JMM who's to say Floyd won't return at 147 thats not that far apart... & again the bigger Mayweather fights defensively!
    Mate Mayorga gave Shane Mosely far more problems than Margarito did.

    You are entitled to your opinions but there is no way in the world that Juan Manuel Marquez knocks out or even beats Cory Spinks at 154 simply no way.

    If Spinks met him at 140 I'd side with Marquez, at 147 he might have a chance depending on how draining making weight was for Cory but at 154 lbs there is simply no way.

    You say history is littered with little guys moving up weight classes to beat world champs well then just name a few in the last say 30 years who have climbed 5 weight classes including 3 in one go and knocked out a reigning world champ.

    To my knowledge Manny is the only guy to have come close. Floyd and Oscar have been the only fighters in recent years able to jump multiple divisions in recent years.

    The only other guy I can think of is Roberto Duran. Hearns, is much like Williams in that his frame was so massive he wasnt disadvantaged by the jump in weight.

    Marquez however is 5 ft 7, he aint jumping to junior middle and beating even Sergio Mora.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Yes I really do think JMM would knock out Spinks!!!

    History is littered with smaller guys beating bigger men! Just because your bigger doesn't necessarily mean better & I'll only use the Pacquiao fight to illustrate that, not compare.

    Spinks used to be very slick, but even at his best at 147 he was never great! Hell I had the very crude Mayorga beating him! Plus his chin leaves a lot to be desired & an excellent technician like Marquez would have no trouble with Spinks.

    Marquez is 135 now & I agree it would be a big step up to 154, but although Spinks is the bigger man he does not fight in a way that it would be to his advantage! Sure he has height & reach but Marquez is a brilliant fighter!!!

    As to Mayweather/ JMM who's to say Floyd won't return at 147 thats not that far apart... & again the bigger Mayweather fights defensively!
    Mate Mayorga gave Shane Mosely far more problems than Margarito did.

    You are entitled to your opinions but there is no way in the world that Juan Manuel Marquez knocks out or even beats Cory Spinks at 154 simply no way.

    If Spinks met him at 140 I'd side with Marquez, at 147 he might have a chance depending on how draining making weight was for Cory but at 154 lbs there is simply no way.

    You say history is littered with little guys moving up weight classes to beat world champs well then just name a few in the last say 30 years who have climbed 5 weight classes including 3 in one go and knocked out a reigning world champ.

    To my knowledge Manny is the only guy to have come close. Floyd and Oscar have been the only fighters in recent years able to jump multiple divisions in recent years.

    The only other guy I can think of is Roberto Duran. Hearns, is much like Williams in that his frame was so massive he wasnt disadvantaged by the jump in weight.

    Marquez however is 5 ft 7, he aint jumping to junior middle and beating even Sergio Mora.
    Leonard and Jones Jr also did it

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Yes I really do think JMM would knock out Spinks!!!

    History is littered with smaller guys beating bigger men! Just because your bigger doesn't necessarily mean better & I'll only use the Pacquiao fight to illustrate that, not compare.

    Spinks used to be very slick, but even at his best at 147 he was never great! Hell I had the very crude Mayorga beating him! Plus his chin leaves a lot to be desired & an excellent technician like Marquez would have no trouble with Spinks.

    Marquez is 135 now & I agree it would be a big step up to 154, but although Spinks is the bigger man he does not fight in a way that it would be to his advantage! Sure he has height & reach but Marquez is a brilliant fighter!!!

    As to Mayweather/ JMM who's to say Floyd won't return at 147 thats not that far apart... & again the bigger Mayweather fights defensively!
    Mate Mayorga gave Shane Mosely far more problems than Margarito did.

    You are entitled to your opinions but there is no way in the world that Juan Manuel Marquez knocks out or even beats Cory Spinks at 154 simply no way.

    If Spinks met him at 140 I'd side with Marquez, at 147 he might have a chance depending on how draining making weight was for Cory but at 154 lbs there is simply no way.

    You say history is littered with little guys moving up weight classes to beat world champs well then just name a few in the last say 30 years who have climbed 5 weight classes including 3 in one go and knocked out a reigning world champ.

    To my knowledge Manny is the only guy to have come close. Floyd and Oscar have been the only fighters in recent years able to jump multiple divisions in recent years.

    The only other guy I can think of is Roberto Duran. Hearns, is much like Williams in that his frame was so massive he wasnt disadvantaged by the jump in weight.

    Marquez however is 5 ft 7, he aint jumping to junior middle and beating even Sergio Mora.
    O.K. for starters I never said beating world champs, I just said bigger men

    The difference between Marquez & Spinks would be about 19 pounds right?

    Roy Jones was outweighed by 33 pounds against Ruiz

    Bernard Hopkins came from 160 to face Tarver at 175 a 15 pound difference there

    Shane Mosley went from 135 to 154

    Leonar went up to 175

    Davarryl Williamson was outweighted by over 100 pounds vs Corey Sanders

    David Haye was outweighted by 23 pounds when he fought Delaney & 14 pounds against Bonin

    There are thousands more... now I'm just using these because most other weight classes the fighters weight about the same.

    Now just because those guys were bigger doesn't mean they were better!

    If you think Mayorga is more talented than Marquez then thats your call, but what about Judah who should have stopped Spinks twice or Pineda who could have won that fight, Karmazin, even Latimore who's best opponent was Powell.

    Spinks was never that good a fighter & Marquez would prove this... he fights defensively & the weight is really irrelevant.

    Bilbo I think you are putting to much emphasis on weight, when you should be concerned with skill

    For the record I think Marquez would have more trouble with Mora than Spinks
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

    I get that Corey is a bigger opponent who has been active and can be difficult, but I don't see anything that he does better than Floyd. It will be a boring UD for Pretty boy if you ask me.
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