Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Cory Spinks on the horizon...

[BoxingGorilla]

Spicoli & Bilbo are both making sense to me.

If I had to pick an outcome I'd say that Mayweather outpoints Spinks with a SD.

In my eyes losing to Spinks (no matter how much bigger he is) would wipe Mayweather off the historical map.

[belakbox]

I think Mayweather can ko Spinks. It should be an ok fight. I won't buy it, but I do not knock Mayweather on this decision. I think Spinks is a proper opponent and good challenge for a comeback fight.

I too get the feeling it's a going to be a little boring though. A lot of feinting and premature punch dodging.

I do hope Mayweather shines though and gets him out inside of 10 rounds.

[RP33]

Spicoli & Bilbo are both making sense to me.

If I had to pick an outcome I'd say that Mayweather outpoints Spinks with a SD.

In my eyes losing to Spinks (no matter how much bigger he is) would wipe Mayweather off the historical map.

Agree that Mayweather cannot lose this fight if he wants to have another big fight ever again.. which is where the huge risk lies in a tune up fight.. but to say it will be an SD may be just as bad as a loss..

I see Floyd fighting to a UD by a clear 3-4 round margin. Spinks is bigger and is still pretty quick, but I don't give him much of a chance in this fight considering he does not have KO power.

I actually really like this fight. Tough ask for Floyd, you guys saying this is easy are forgetting just how small Floyd is.

Spinks is a legitimate junior middleweight and has even fought for the undisputed middleweight world title. Floyd's natural weight class is probably 140 right now so even at welter he's giving a lot of size away.

After more than a year out, going straight into a world title fight with Cory Spinks, who hasn't been beaten decisively since the second Zab Judah fight and was arguably unlucky to have lost to both Jermain Taylor and Verno Phillips.

I'd make it 60/40 in favour of Floyd but Cory has a great chance imo.

I only quoted Bilbo on this so this post would show up again.. Just for everyone who was complaining about Floyd picking on the "smaller" Ricky Hatton. Just makes me chuckle..

[Kev]

Spicoli & Bilbo are both making sense to me.

If I had to pick an outcome I'd say that Mayweather outpoints Spinks with a SD.

In my eyes losing to Spinks (no matter how much bigger he is) would wipe Mayweather off the historical map.

Agree that Mayweather cannot lose this fight if he wants to have another big fight ever again.. which is where the huge risk lies in a tune up fight.. but to say it will be an SD may be just as bad as a loss..

I see Floyd fighting to a UD by a clear 3-4 round margin. Spinks is bigger and is still pretty quick, but I don't give him much of a chance in this fight considering he does not have KO power.

I actually really like this fight. Tough ask for Floyd, you guys saying this is easy are forgetting just how small Floyd is.

Spinks is a legitimate junior middleweight and has even fought for the undisputed middleweight world title. Floyd's natural weight class is probably 140 right now so even at welter he's giving a lot of size away.

After more than a year out, going straight into a world title fight with Cory Spinks, who hasn't been beaten decisively since the second Zab Judah fight and was arguably unlucky to have lost to both Jermain Taylor and Verno Phillips.

I'd make it 60/40 in favour of Floyd but Cory has a great chance imo.

I only quoted Bilbo on this so this post would show up again.. Just for everyone who was complaining about Floyd picking on the "smaller" Ricky Hatton. Just makes me chuckle..

Yeah Floyd and Ricky are really meant for the same weight class. Floyd would beat Ricky whatever weight they fought at.


Oh and let me also say this. Cory Spinks is a MUCH tougher opponent than Juan Manuel Marquez. Marquez style plays straight into Floyd Mayweather and he would knock Marquez out I have no doubt.

Spinks is one awkward fighter though although he seems to have slipped of late and now like Winky is much more flat footed in times past. His chin is suspect too so I'd give Floyd the edge. But its a far bigger risk than taking on Marquez imo.

[Galaxy]

Spicoli & Bilbo are both making sense to me.

If I had to pick an outcome I'd say that Mayweather outpoints Spinks with a SD.

In my eyes losing to Spinks (no matter how much bigger he is) would wipe Mayweather off the historical map.

Agree that Mayweather cannot lose this fight if he wants to have another big fight ever again.. which is where the huge risk lies in a tune up fight.. but to say it will be an SD may be just as bad as a loss..

I see Floyd fighting to a UD by a clear 3-4 round margin. Spinks is bigger and is still pretty quick, but I don't give him much of a chance in this fight considering he does not have KO power.

I actually really like this fight. Tough ask for Floyd, you guys saying this is easy are forgetting just how small Floyd is.

Spinks is a legitimate junior middleweight and has even fought for the undisputed middleweight world title. Floyd's natural weight class is probably 140 right now so even at welter he's giving a lot of size away.

After more than a year out, going straight into a world title fight with Cory Spinks, who hasn't been beaten decisively since the second Zab Judah fight and was arguably unlucky to have lost to both Jermain Taylor and Verno Phillips.

I'd make it 60/40 in favour of Floyd but Cory has a great chance imo.

I only quoted Bilbo on this so this post would show up again.. Just for everyone who was complaining about Floyd picking on the "smaller" Ricky Hatton. Just makes me chuckle..

Yeah Floyd and Ricky are really meant for the same weight class. Floyd would beat Ricky whatever weight they fought at.


Oh and let me also say this. Cory Spinks is a MUCH tougher opponent than Juan Manuel Marquez. Marquez style plays straight into Floyd Mayweather and he would knock Marquez out I have no doubt.

Spinks is one awkward fighter though although he seems to have slipped of late and now like Winky is much more flat footed in times past. His chin is suspect too so I'd give Floyd the edge. But its a far bigger risk than taking on Marquez imo.

Spinks tougher than Marquez? I don't see it! I thought Mayorga beat him, Judah should have stopped him twice but he lost focus & let Spinks of the hook. Bearly survived Karmazin & struggled with both Phillips & Latimore! Marquez would knock Spinks out, & a fight with Mayweather would be extremely difficult imo...

[Galaxy]

Yes I really do think JMM would knock out Spinks!!!

History is littered with smaller guys beating bigger men! Just because your bigger doesn't necessarily mean better & I'll only use the Pacquiao fight to illustrate that, not compare.

Spinks used to be very slick, but even at his best at 147 he was never great! Hell I had the very crude Mayorga beating him! Plus his chin leaves a lot to be desired & an excellent technician like Marquez would have no trouble with Spinks.

Marquez is 135 now & I agree it would be a big step up to 154, but although Spinks is the bigger man he does not fight in a way that it would be to his advantage! Sure he has height & reach but Marquez is a brilliant fighter!!!

As to Mayweather/ JMM who's to say Floyd won't return at 147 thats not that far apart... & again the bigger Mayweather fights defensively!

[Kev]

Yes I really do think JMM would knock out Spinks!!!

History is littered with smaller guys beating bigger men! Just because your bigger doesn't necessarily mean better & I'll only use the Pacquiao fight to illustrate that, not compare.

Spinks used to be very slick, but even at his best at 147 he was never great! Hell I had the very crude Mayorga beating him! Plus his chin leaves a lot to be desired & an excellent technician like Marquez would have no trouble with Spinks.

Marquez is 135 now & I agree it would be a big step up to 154, but although Spinks is the bigger man he does not fight in a way that it would be to his advantage! Sure he has height & reach but Marquez is a brilliant fighter!!!

As to Mayweather/ JMM who's to say Floyd won't return at 147 thats not that far apart... & again the bigger Mayweather fights defensively!

Mate Mayorga gave Shane Mosely far more problems than Margarito did.

You are entitled to your opinions but there is no way in the world that Juan Manuel Marquez knocks out or even beats Cory Spinks at 154 simply no way.

If Spinks met him at 140 I'd side with Marquez, at 147 he might have a chance depending on how draining making weight was for Cory but at 154 lbs there is simply no way.

You say history is littered with little guys moving up weight classes to beat world champs well then just name a few in the last say 30 years who have climbed 5 weight classes including 3 in one go and knocked out a reigning world champ.

To my knowledge Manny is the only guy to have come close. Floyd and Oscar have been the only fighters in recent years able to jump multiple divisions in recent years.

The only other guy I can think of is Roberto Duran. Hearns, is much like Williams in that his frame was so massive he wasnt disadvantaged by the jump in weight.

Marquez however is 5 ft 7, he aint jumping to junior middle and beating even Sergio Mora.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Yes I really do think JMM would knock out Spinks!!!

History is littered with smaller guys beating bigger men! Just because your bigger doesn't necessarily mean better & I'll only use the Pacquiao fight to illustrate that, not compare.

Spinks used to be very slick, but even at his best at 147 he was never great! Hell I had the very crude Mayorga beating him! Plus his chin leaves a lot to be desired & an excellent technician like Marquez would have no trouble with Spinks.

Marquez is 135 now & I agree it would be a big step up to 154, but although Spinks is the bigger man he does not fight in a way that it would be to his advantage! Sure he has height & reach but Marquez is a brilliant fighter!!!

As to Mayweather/ JMM who's to say Floyd won't return at 147 thats not that far apart... & again the bigger Mayweather fights defensively!

Mate Mayorga gave Shane Mosely far more problems than Margarito did.

You are entitled to your opinions but there is no way in the world that Juan Manuel Marquez knocks out or even beats Cory Spinks at 154 simply no way.

If Spinks met him at 140 I'd side with Marquez, at 147 he might have a chance depending on how draining making weight was for Cory but at 154 lbs there is simply no way.

You say history is littered with little guys moving up weight classes to beat world champs well then just name a few in the last say 30 years who have climbed 5 weight classes including 3 in one go and knocked out a reigning world champ.

To my knowledge Manny is the only guy to have come close. Floyd and Oscar have been the only fighters in recent years able to jump multiple divisions in recent years.

The only other guy I can think of is Roberto Duran. Hearns, is much like Williams in that his frame was so massive he wasnt disadvantaged by the jump in weight.

Marquez however is 5 ft 7, he aint jumping to junior middle and beating even Sergio Mora.

Leonard and Jones Jr also did it

[Kev]

Yes I really do think JMM would knock out Spinks!!!

History is littered with smaller guys beating bigger men! Just because your bigger doesn't necessarily mean better & I'll only use the Pacquiao fight to illustrate that, not compare.

Spinks used to be very slick, but even at his best at 147 he was never great! Hell I had the very crude Mayorga beating him! Plus his chin leaves a lot to be desired & an excellent technician like Marquez would have no trouble with Spinks.

Marquez is 135 now & I agree it would be a big step up to 154, but although Spinks is the bigger man he does not fight in a way that it would be to his advantage! Sure he has height & reach but Marquez is a brilliant fighter!!!

As to Mayweather/ JMM who's to say Floyd won't return at 147 thats not that far apart... & again the bigger Mayweather fights defensively!

Mate Mayorga gave Shane Mosely far more problems than Margarito did.

You are entitled to your opinions but there is no way in the world that Juan Manuel Marquez knocks out or even beats Cory Spinks at 154 simply no way.

If Spinks met him at 140 I'd side with Marquez, at 147 he might have a chance depending on how draining making weight was for Cory but at 154 lbs there is simply no way.

You say history is littered with little guys moving up weight classes to beat world champs well then just name a few in the last say 30 years who have climbed 5 weight classes including 3 in one go and knocked out a reigning world champ.

To my knowledge Manny is the only guy to have come close. Floyd and Oscar have been the only fighters in recent years able to jump multiple divisions in recent years.

The only other guy I can think of is Roberto Duran. Hearns, is much like Williams in that his frame was so massive he wasnt disadvantaged by the jump in weight.

Marquez however is 5 ft 7, he aint jumping to junior middle and beating even Sergio Mora.

Leonard and Jones Jr also did it

Leonard didn't he won titles from welter to super middle thats 4 divisions. In fact only 3 because his supermiddleweight title was fought at 160, the middleweight limit, dont ask me why.

Jones Jr did and the was the only man in history to achieve that feat and he didn't come close to knocking Ruiz out.

Even the great Roberto Duran didn't he knocked out Barkley at middleweight, that's a climb of 4 divisions.

[Galaxy]

Yes I really do think JMM would knock out Spinks!!!

History is littered with smaller guys beating bigger men! Just because your bigger doesn't necessarily mean better & I'll only use the Pacquiao fight to illustrate that, not compare.

Spinks used to be very slick, but even at his best at 147 he was never great! Hell I had the very crude Mayorga beating him! Plus his chin leaves a lot to be desired & an excellent technician like Marquez would have no trouble with Spinks.

Marquez is 135 now & I agree it would be a big step up to 154, but although Spinks is the bigger man he does not fight in a way that it would be to his advantage! Sure he has height & reach but Marquez is a brilliant fighter!!!

As to Mayweather/ JMM who's to say Floyd won't return at 147 thats not that far apart... & again the bigger Mayweather fights defensively!

Mate Mayorga gave Shane Mosely far more problems than Margarito did.

You are entitled to your opinions but there is no way in the world that Juan Manuel Marquez knocks out or even beats Cory Spinks at 154 simply no way.

If Spinks met him at 140 I'd side with Marquez, at 147 he might have a chance depending on how draining making weight was for Cory but at 154 lbs there is simply no way.

You say history is littered with little guys moving up weight classes to beat world champs well then just name a few in the last say 30 years who have climbed 5 weight classes including 3 in one go and knocked out a reigning world champ.

To my knowledge Manny is the only guy to have come close. Floyd and Oscar have been the only fighters in recent years able to jump multiple divisions in recent years.

The only other guy I can think of is Roberto Duran. Hearns, is much like Williams in that his frame was so massive he wasnt disadvantaged by the jump in weight.

Marquez however is 5 ft 7, he aint jumping to junior middle and beating even Sergio Mora.

O.K. for starters I never said beating world champs, I just said bigger men

The difference between Marquez & Spinks would be about 19 pounds right?

Roy Jones was outweighed by 33 pounds against Ruiz

Bernard Hopkins came from 160 to face Tarver at 175 a 15 pound difference there

Shane Mosley went from 135 to 154

Leonar went up to 175

Davarryl Williamson was outweighted by over 100 pounds vs Corey Sanders

David Haye was outweighted by 23 pounds when he fought Delaney & 14 pounds against Bonin

There are thousands more... now I'm just using these because most other weight classes the fighters weight about the same.

Now just because those guys were bigger doesn't mean they were better!

If you think Mayorga is more talented than Marquez then thats your call, but what about Judah who should have stopped Spinks twice or Pineda who could have won that fight, Karmazin, even Latimore who's best opponent was Powell.

Spinks was never that good a fighter & Marquez would prove this... he fights defensively & the weight is really irrelevant.

Bilbo I think you are putting to much emphasis on weight, when you should be concerned with skill

For the record I think Marquez would have more trouble with Mora than Spinks

[Kev]

Yes I really do think JMM would knock out Spinks!!!

History is littered with smaller guys beating bigger men! Just because your bigger doesn't necessarily mean better & I'll only use the Pacquiao fight to illustrate that, not compare.

Spinks used to be very slick, but even at his best at 147 he was never great! Hell I had the very crude Mayorga beating him! Plus his chin leaves a lot to be desired & an excellent technician like Marquez would have no trouble with Spinks.

Marquez is 135 now & I agree it would be a big step up to 154, but although Spinks is the bigger man he does not fight in a way that it would be to his advantage! Sure he has height & reach but Marquez is a brilliant fighter!!!

As to Mayweather/ JMM who's to say Floyd won't return at 147 thats not that far apart... & again the bigger Mayweather fights defensively!

Mate Mayorga gave Shane Mosely far more problems than Margarito did.

You are entitled to your opinions but there is no way in the world that Juan Manuel Marquez knocks out or even beats Cory Spinks at 154 simply no way.

If Spinks met him at 140 I'd side with Marquez, at 147 he might have a chance depending on how draining making weight was for Cory but at 154 lbs there is simply no way.

You say history is littered with little guys moving up weight classes to beat world champs well then just name a few in the last say 30 years who have climbed 5 weight classes including 3 in one go and knocked out a reigning world champ.

To my knowledge Manny is the only guy to have come close. Floyd and Oscar have been the only fighters in recent years able to jump multiple divisions in recent years.

The only other guy I can think of is Roberto Duran. Hearns, is much like Williams in that his frame was so massive he wasnt disadvantaged by the jump in weight.

Marquez however is 5 ft 7, he aint jumping to junior middle and beating even Sergio Mora.

O.K. for starters I never said beating world champs, I just said bigger men

The difference between Marquez & Spinks would be about 19 pounds right?

Roy Jones was outweighed by 33 pounds against Ruiz

Bernard Hopkins came from 160 to face Tarver at 175 a 15 pound difference there

Shane Mosley went from 135 to 154

Leonar went up to 175

Davarryl Williamson was outweighted by over 100 pounds vs Corey Sanders

David Haye was outweighted by 23 pounds when he fought Delaney & 14 pounds against Bonin

There are thousands more... now I'm just using these because most other weight classes the fighters weight about the same.

Now just because those guys were bigger doesn't mean they were better!

If you think Mayorga is more talented than Marquez then thats your call, but what about Judah who should have stopped Spinks twice or Pineda who could have won that fight, Karmazin, even Latimore who's best opponent was Powell.

Spinks was never that good a fighter & Marquez would prove this... he fights defensively & the weight is really irrelevant.

Bilbo I think you are putting to much emphasis on weight, when you should be concerned with skill

For the record I think Marquez would have more trouble with Mora than Spinks

None of those examples are applicable. It's entirely natural for a great fighter to move 3 divisions or so in a career and if he's a hall of fame calibre fighter to win titles at all of them.

Marquez himself has already achieved this I believe with belts in the featherweight, super feather and lightweight divisions. Now you want him to jump another 3 divisions to 154.

How has Shane Mosely come close to that? Mosely has gone through 4 weight classes, from lightweight to junior middleweight. To beat Spinks Marquez would have to go through 6 equivelent to Mosely beating Froch, Bute or Kessler,

In the heavyweight division body weight simply does not count as much as beyond a certain point the extra weight is practically a handicap.

If you think Bernard Hopkins is a smaller man than Antonio Tarver then I can't even reason with you.

but none of your examples even remotely come close to Marquez, a former featherweight moving through 6 weight classes to knock out Cory Spinks a reigning junior middleweight champ.

It was also interesting that you couldn't provide lower weight examples.

Aside from Floyd who started at super feather and went as high as 154 and Oscar who started at super feather and went as high as 160 who else?

It's simply never happened. Manny knocked out Oscar mainly because Oscar was 20 lbs underweight.

If Spinks fought Marquez at 140 I'd agree Marquez could knock him out too but at 154 it just wouldn't happen

[VictorCharlie]

I get that Corey is a bigger opponent who has been active and can be difficult, but I don't see anything that he does better than Floyd. It will be a boring UD for Pretty boy if you ask me.