Hatton was a Fluke!!

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Downplaying the career of Hatton's biggest name victim doesn't look good for Hatton.

So whats your view on it then? Am i wrong or have i missed something, everyone could see Kosta was a class act and a very very good boxer/fighter, but he lacks names on his resume.

Valid question, IMO Tszyu's name victories stack higher than Hatton's, but not by a huge amount. More name victims on Tszyu's resume. I don't really want to have a debate on why TSZYU's victims were better than Hatton's, but I will if you want. Also Tszyu ranks higher by virtue of the length and # of defenses in his reign.

I wouldn't say Tszyu & Castillo were totally shot, but they definitely were on the downside, especially Castillo. And it doesn't mean a whole lot to me to say things like "Hatton only lost to the best" Cause I think you judge a fighter by who he beat, not by who he lost too.

I would have been much more prepared to give Hatton credit if he'd taken a serious run at welterweight. But the consensus of his fans seems to be that Hatton wasn't competitive moving up a microdivision in weight, in which case he had no business fighting PBF in the first place.

So yeah, he's a decent fighter, you might even call him a good fighter, but great? nah not by a long shot. And I never really consider him as top ten p4p material.

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Downplaying the career of Hatton's biggest name victim doesn't look good for Hatton.

So whats your view on it then? Am i wrong or have i missed something, everyone could see Kosta was a class act and a very very good boxer/fighter, but he lacks names on his resume.

Valid question, IMO Tszyu's name victories stack higher than Hatton's, but not by a huge amount. More name victims on Tszyu's resume. I don't really want to have a debate on why TSZYU's victims were better than Hatton's, but I will if you want. Also Tszyu ranks higher by virtue of the length and # of defenses in his reign.

I wouldn't say Tszyu & Castillo were totally shot, but they definitely were on the downside, especially Castillo. And it doesn't mean a whole lot to me to say things like "Hatton only lost to the best" Cause I think you judge a fighter by who he beat, not by who he lost too.

I would have been much more prepared to give Hatton credit if he'd taken a serious run at welterweight. But the consensus of his fans seems to be that Hatton wasn't competitive moving up a microdivision in weight, in which case he had no business fighting PBF in the first place.

So yeah, he's a decent fighter, you might even call him a good fighter, but great? nah not by a long shot. And I never really consider him as top ten p4p material.

Yes i agree with most you say there and my opinion of Kosta being higher than Ricky is exactly the same reasoning. Kosta of course was not in his prime he was 36 years old or nearly 36, but he was nowhere near shot, Castillo was shot and yes a decent win as alot of people predcited Hatton loss but look at Castillos preformances prior to the Hatton win they were signs he was not the fighter he was, but Kosta was nowhere near shot, as the odds suggested where Kosta was a strong 1/2 favourite the saem price Pac was to beat Hatton, Hatton was always odds on to beat Castillo.

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Hatton beat a Tszyu who could still fight, true. Tszyu had slowed down abit, and prior to blowing out Mitchell inside of 3 rounds, hadn't fought inside nearly two years aside those 3 rounds.

He then jumped in with Hatton, for one of the most physical big time fights you can get, and Hatton physically wore him out. It was really hard to say, but stamina and endurance were with the younger guy..Older guys foing it like that, especially after such relative activity, he got done.

First real signs of Tszyu slowing down were January 2003 v Jesse James Leija. A 6 round rather slow paced fight, where Leija chucked in the towel in the 6th.

Next fight wa Mitchell in November 04, the Hatton May 05. He was older, not quite at his best, slowed abit. It's kind of hard to tell, but that wasnt the best I've seen the guy. Also, he underestimated Hatton, as there is noway he would've conceded home ground, time, etc for a major world title unifier. The ref was to Hattons advantage, in direct contrast to the type Mayweather got, t set and reload.


He lost.....The whole pint is, if at least afew of those factors are true, Tszyu still put up a good fight near 36.

That was definetly Hattons biggest win, much bigger than Castillo. Against Pacquiao, stylistically hard against a fast southpaw for Hattons style..