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    Default Re: What do you think of Catch weights?

    What complete "ownage"? Its completely irrelevant. Those Pac was 10 years ago. He wasn't at his best. He wasn't even in to 30 p4p best back then. There's a huge diff between 1 div champ and 6 div champ. So always rubbish to compare an old Pac to a new Pac. Ownage my ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    What complete "ownage"? Its completely irrelevant. Those Pac was 10 years ago. He wasn't at his best. He wasn't even in to 30 p4p best back then. There's a huge diff between 1 div champ and 6 div champ. So always rubbish to compare an old Pac to a new Pac. Ownage my ass.
    Its not a case of comparing old Pac to new Pac. The point I'm making are these are clear indications of how a weight drained fighter can under perform. I just feel he should fight Cotto or Mosley at their optimum weight so it doesn't hinder their performance in a fight with Pacquiao. What pisses me off about it is that he is more than capable of beating them both at 147, because he is simply that good a fighter. Thats not to say he will, but I think he would be the bookies favourite.

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    It's quite clear in here that most fans of the sport does not like catch weights because of the weakening effects it has on the fighter that has to drop down to a certain weight in their contract.

    I guess I can safely say its only the Pac fans that feels catch weights are acceptable because they feel that their hero can only defeat the top welterweights below their optimum weights. lol

    Pac should stick to fighting guys like Kotelnik and Bradley at 140. You know at Pac's best weight. Don't play with the big boys if you can't play with them, they can hurt you!

    Its a shame really since it is the hottest division right now, and if you take a look at it historically it has arguably the greatest fighters that fought at this division at one point such as Robinson, Armstrong, Leonard, Duran, hearns, Benitez, Trinidad, Mayweather, DeLahoya, Whittaker, etc. Too bad for Pacman!

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    It's quite clear in here that most fans of the sport does not like catch weights because of the weakening effects it has on the fighter that has to drop down to a certain weight in their contract.

    I guess I can safely say its only the Pac fans that feels catch weights are acceptable because they feel that their hero can only defeat the top welterweights below their optimum weights. lol

    Pac should stick to fighting guys like Kotelnik and Bradley at 140. You know at Pac's best weight. Don't play with the big boys if you can't play with them, they can hurt you!

    Its a shame really since it is the hottest division right now, and if you take a look at it historically it has arguably the greatest fighters that fought at this division at one point such as Robinson, Armstrong, Leonard, Duran, hearns, Benitez, Trinidad, Mayweather, DeLahoya, Whittaker, etc. Too bad for Pacman!
    That is wrong. Most fans of the sport don't like title fights that are at catch weights. Most fans correctly believe a title fight should be fought at the designated weight for that title. There isn't a problem per se with catch weights. Pavlik fought Hopkins at 170. No one made a big deal out of that because it wasn't for belts. Juan Diaz is fighting Paulie at 138, but not for belts. It is a farce if Pac claims to be a welterweight champion, but doesn't win the title at 147. That's the point.

    There is a lot of action below 147. And many fighters at 147 may be willing to come down to fight Pac. The problem with fighting the guys at 140 is that he already sent beat the pulp out of the champ.

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    Default Re: What do you think of Catch weights?

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    What complete "ownage"? Its completely irrelevant. Those Pac was 10 years ago. He wasn't at his best. He wasn't even in to 30 p4p best back then. There's a huge diff between 1 div champ and 6 div champ. So always rubbish to compare an old Pac to a new Pac. Ownage my ass.
    Its not a case of comparing old Pac to new Pac. The point I'm making are these are clear indications of how a weight drained fighter can under perform. I just feel he should fight Cotto or Mosley at their optimum weight so it doesn't hinder their performance in a fight with Pacquiao. What pisses me off about it is that he is more than capable of beating them both at 147, because he is simply that good a fighter. Thats not to say he will, but I think he would be the bookies favourite.
    Not against Mosely. If that fight happened at 147, I'd sig bet any day of the week.

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    Default Re: What do you think of Catch weights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    What complete "ownage"? Its completely irrelevant. Those Pac was 10 years ago. He wasn't at his best. He wasn't even in to 30 p4p best back then. There's a huge diff between 1 div champ and 6 div champ. So always rubbish to compare an old Pac to a new Pac. Ownage my ass.
    Its not a case of comparing old Pac to new Pac. The point I'm making are these are clear indications of how a weight drained fighter can under perform. I just feel he should fight Cotto or Mosley at their optimum weight so it doesn't hinder their performance in a fight with Pacquiao. What pisses me off about it is that he is more than capable of beating them both at 147, because he is simply that good a fighter. Thats not to say he will, but I think he would be the bookies favourite.
    Not against Mosely. If that fight happened at 147, I'd sig bet any day of the week.
    I'd take it, because I don't think Mosley will be able to catch him. Its all well and good when you have a willing target like Margarito, but Mosley's age would show in this one I think. Its just a feeling, but I'd be happy to bet if the fight ever happens.

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