KLITSCHKO vs CHAGAEV

[Violent Demise]

he never said that they were major factors in the fight, just that counters were landed at some point.

Learn to read between the lines. He listed them as if they contributed to his losses.

lol, no I never watched the fights. blah, let me ask you this are you really happy with Wlad spearheading your favorite sport? I mean a Kids entertainer Brock Lesner is champ of UFC and is a much bigger name worldwide than Wlad. Wlad is a gentleman and a nice guy but he is really stopping the sport from having any cross over success in the heavyweight division.

So now it's Wlad fault his opponents can't beat him? Gimmie a fukking break. Wlad is what he is. Accept it.

Lesner a former pro wrestler became champ in what his 3rd or 4th fight? That pretty much says it all about the crap otherwise known as UFC

Ok mate don't swear relax! it's not that serious , listen you blatently let your hate for any thing British affect your opinion of fights so why am I discussing this with you? you are not really looking at it with any common sense. Wlad is a terrible champ for a sport that is supposed to be primarily entertaining. ANd what I watched to night was not entertainment. Lesner (No I do not watch UFC) is entertaining and that is why he was given a shot and is now champ.

Wlad is not responsible for his opponents being unable to beat him. But it's clear that as regular as Wlad uses that jab someone fast enough (Not many heavyweights) will counter it and make him pay.

Has Wlad ever fought anyone as fast as Haye?

No he hasn't. But it don't matter. For all his speed, Haye ain't exactly to hard to hit. Haye got away with his style of fighting before cuz he was fighting fighters his own size or smaller. Against Wlad that style is sucide.

Question for you. Has Haye ever faced someone as strong as Wlad?