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    Default Re: Lets get something straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Catchweights should not be for titles period. The belt is for fighters that can make 141-147 at the weigh-in. The 145 limit is not the Welterweight limit and therefore should not be for the WELTERWEIGHT title. If Cotto and PAC want to fight at a catchweight fine, but you cannot justify it being for a title other than you want your boy to get his 7th div title. If PAC wants a 7th division title fight someone within the limits of the seventh division, not some made-up limit.
    If a champ agrees to it then a title can be on the line at a catchweight. Just like in the past fighters have agreed to a catchweight to put two division titles on the line.

    Come on guys this isnt the first time its going to happen.
    Those were just as much if not more BS than this. I would never endorse multiple weight titles in the same fight it doesn't make any sense. Yes it has happened, but it shouldn't have. For example, how can you justify fighting for a middleweight title at 164 lbs. Do boxers now have carte blanche to determine what weightclasses are? If that's the case why have weight classes at all?
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    Default Re: Lets get something straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Catchweights should not be for titles period. The belt is for fighters that can make 141-147 at the weigh-in. The 145 limit is not the Welterweight limit and therefore should not be for the WELTERWEIGHT title. If Cotto and PAC want to fight at a catchweight fine, but you cannot justify it being for a title other than you want your boy to get his 7th div title. If PAC wants a 7th division title fight someone within the limits of the seventh division, not some made-up limit.
    If a champ agrees to it then a title can be on the line at a catchweight. Just like in the past fighters have agreed to a catchweight to put two division titles on the line.

    Come on guys this isnt the first time its going to happen.
    Those were just as much if not more BS than this. I would never endorse multiple weight titles in the same fight it doesn't make any sense. Yes it has happened, but it shouldn't have. For example, how can you justify fighting for a middleweight title at 164 lbs. Do boxers now have carte blanche to determine what weightclasses are? If that's the case why have weight classes at all?
    they do it to match two great fighters up and the titles are additional hype jobs. you know how boxing goes killa.

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    Default Re: Lets get something straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post

    If a champ agrees to it then a title can be on the line at a catchweight. Just like in the past fighters have agreed to a catchweight to put two division titles on the line.

    Come on guys this isnt the first time its going to happen.
    Those were just as much if not more BS than this. I would never endorse multiple weight titles in the same fight it doesn't make any sense. Yes it has happened, but it shouldn't have. For example, how can you justify fighting for a middleweight title at 164 lbs. Do boxers now have carte blanche to determine what weightclasses are? If that's the case why have weight classes at all?
    they do it to match two great fighters up and the titles are additional hype jobs. you know how boxing goes killa.
    So you're saying titles are merely marketing tools?
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    Default Re: Lets get something straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    Those were just as much if not more BS than this. I would never endorse multiple weight titles in the same fight it doesn't make any sense. Yes it has happened, but it shouldn't have. For example, how can you justify fighting for a middleweight title at 164 lbs. Do boxers now have carte blanche to determine what weightclasses are? If that's the case why have weight classes at all?
    they do it to match two great fighters up and the titles are additional hype jobs. you know how boxing goes killa.
    So you're saying titles are merely marketing tools?
    I wouldnt say merely marketing tools.

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    Default Re: Lets get something straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post

    they do it to match two great fighters up and the titles are additional hype jobs. you know how boxing goes killa.
    So you're saying titles are merely marketing tools?
    I wouldnt say merely marketing tools.
    Please explain how a fight that is not at the standards of Welterweight can be for the title then. 141-145 is NOT the Welterweight limit and should NOT be for the Welterweight title because of that.
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    Default Re: Lets get something straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    So you're saying titles are merely marketing tools?
    I wouldnt say merely marketing tools.
    Please explain how a fight that is not at the standards of Welterweight can be for the title then. 141-145 is NOT the Welterweight limit and should NOT be for the Welterweight title because of that.
    Actually 141-145 is within the welterweight limit. It's 141-147 but guys usually come in at 147 most of the time and then rehydrate.

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    Default Re: Lets get something straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post

    I wouldnt say merely marketing tools.
    Please explain how a fight that is not at the standards of Welterweight can be for the title then. 141-145 is NOT the Welterweight limit and should NOT be for the Welterweight title because of that.
    Actually 141-145 is within the welterweight limit. It's 141-147 but guys usually come in at 147 most of the time and then rehydrate.
    Within yes, but not AT the welterweight limit. For a guy like Cotto, getting down to 145 may actually make a big difference. The point is Welterweight is not 141-145 it's 141-147.
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    Default Re: Lets get something straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    So you're saying titles are merely marketing tools?
    I wouldnt say merely marketing tools.
    Please explain how a fight that is not at the standards of Welterweight can be for the title then. 141-145 is NOT the Welterweight limit and should NOT be for the Welterweight title because of that.
    KS, the rule states welterweight range from 141 to 147 and the welterweight title can be fought between those weight. If the fighters agree not to max out during weigh in at 147 they can do that.

    The catchweight is simply asking both fighters not to max out on the weigh in, but they are still at the welterweight standard.

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    Default Re: Lets get something straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post

    I wouldnt say merely marketing tools.
    Please explain how a fight that is not at the standards of Welterweight can be for the title then. 141-145 is NOT the Welterweight limit and should NOT be for the Welterweight title because of that.
    KS, the rule states welterweight range from 141 to 147 and the welterweight title can be fought between those weight. If the fighters agree not to max out during weigh in at 147 they can do that.

    The catchweight is simply asking both fighters not to max out on the weigh in, but they are still at the welterweight standard.
    No they are not, if they were within the Welterweight standard they could weigh-in at 147. This is a CATCHWEIGHT.
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