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    Default Re: Would Juan Manuel Marquez's Brother Have Done Better Against Manny Pacquiao P4P ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
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    What durability issues? He's been stopped once in recent years. And that was clearly a pre-mature stoppage against a p4p fighter. The losses early in his career can't be used against him cuz he's not the same fighter. Just like Pacquiao's early stoppage losses can't be used against him. Rafael can be hurt. I'm not saying he has the greatest chin. But to say he's not durable is typical stupidity coming from you. To say Rafael's right hand ain't all that shows how big of an idiot you really are. Pacquiao has looked greatly lately. But that's cuz he's been facing fighters incapable of hitting him. But if you hit him you can hurt him. Rafael would hit him. And he would hurt him.
    Watch Pacquiao-Marquez 1 or Pacquiao-Morales 1, he moved to face Morales and he took a ton of punches, but still kept on coming.

    Also Marquez was 23 when Mataeos ko'ed him. And he was 25 when Genaro Garcia ko'ed him. Pacquiao was 18 and 20 when he was ko'ed and at 20 he was badly weight drained.

    Also I didn't say Rafael didn't have a good right cross, just that it isn't the best in the sport, and you saying that shows that you are 10x stupider than I am. Manny hasn't looked just great lately, he's looked good for years. Rafael Marquez is also an excellent fighter, but he is a poor second to his brother, besides p4p power, he's not as good of a pure boxer, not as fast, not as good at counter punching, doesn't have the same quality of chin. He's a slightly lesser fighter than his brother Juan Manuel Marquez, thats nothing to be ashamed of. However, his chin, his average defensive skills wouldn't be enough to hold Pacquiao at bay, I think it would be a great fight but around rounds 9-11 Pacquiao would stop him.
    It's obvious you never saw his loss to Garcia. If you did you wouldn't of bother listing it. I know you swear by it, but trust me Boxing Rec ain't always your friend. Rafael doesn't have to be like Juan Manuel. Cuz there different type of fighters. Rafael has the power to hurt Pacquiao. Who did not just walk through every thing Morales and Marquez threw. I don't know what fights you were watching. If you watched them at all. He was clearly hurt by both fighters several times.

    Rafael is not as well known as a Hopkins, Jones or Mayweather. So I'm really not surprised you listed the most popular fighters today as having better right hands than him. As foolish as that is. You don't have enough knowledge on Rafael to understand. Not that it matters. Your answer would be the same no matter the question. Who has the best chin? You would say Jones, Mayweather and Hopkins. The best power? Jones, Mayweather and Hopkins. And so on.
    Roy Jones Jr, Mayweather, and Hopkins are known for their crosses being the best in the sport. Who lands their cross more accurate than these three, besides maybe Manny? Like I said they are known for their crosses, Marquez isn't, not because he is an unknown comodity, but because his right cross isn't even his best punch, yet you are ignorant enough to think its the best right hand in the sport.

    Your ignorance is also shown because Pacquiao clearly was getting the better of Israel Vazquez when they sparred for his first bout against Barrera.

    Also about the Genaro Garcia fight, it was stopped prematurely, but was he not hurt? Manny often looks a lot more hurt than he is because he doesn't have the best balance due to his old style, but Morales and Marquez weren't able to stop him with a ton of perfectly landed punches and combinations, and I didn't say they didn't have an effect on him, but I did say he kept coming, which Manny did.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYD3DQ_OwTQ
    Manny is too much for him, bigger, faster, stronger.
    Last edited by Taeth; 07-05-2009 at 08:29 PM.

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