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Oh come on GAME you know we have got on in the past, and you know im a MAB fan but i find that to be a silly comparison. Mike Tyson had been shot for over a decade and was coming off a loss to Danny Williams.

Where as MAB was P4P number 3 and was coming off some of his finest performances, against Erik Morales 2, Kevin Kelley, Naseem Hamed, Johnny Tapia.

Now i know all about the problems MAB had prior to the fight, but that isn't Manny Pacquiao's fault is it ? he beat the fighter in front of him who was P4P number 3 and thats all that counts.

Suprisingly in there rematch i felt MAB done better, even though he was past his prime at that point so work that one out. But the point is whether i like it or not because im a massive MAB fan, the fact is Manny Pacquiao just has MAB's number. Which is nothing to be ashamed of but its true.

Just like JMM has Manny Pacquiao's number, but his punch resistance isn't as good as someone like Erik Morales or ETC. Otherwise he would of won both fights, but still i feel the 3 knockdowns in the 1st fight. Where due to JMM being caught cold and getting suprised by Manny Pacquiao's speed.
I thought MAB fought a better fight the second time around too. He landed much bigger blows but I felt he held back too much and didn't want to get into a brawl with Manny. I still had Pac winning, but a closer fight than what the scorecards read. I always thought Manny had MAB's number too. Similar to Vernon Forrest having Mosley's number.
It demonstrates what a number of us said at the time but plenty of people laughed at the idea, that MAB was majorly underprepared for the first fight - and common sense would dictate that with MAB being older and Pac a better boxer by their second fight it would have been an easier fight for Pac but it wasn't.
The other thing is and it goes for all fighters, they can only face the man in front of them whether they are ill, have broken bones etc etc All some people care about are facts and figures but the devil is in the detail as we all know.
Yes but that was also due to MAB, fighting overly cautious which isn't his normal style and it never has been. He can box very well, but that night he was too overly cautious. And thats why Manny Pacquiao couldn't find his rhythm.

And i think even if MAB was at his best i don't really think, it would of made a whole lot of difference. I still see a clear UD for Manny Pacquiao, although it would be more competitive obviously.