Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

[Taeth]

If PAC wins, hopefully there is no excuses.

there will be because cotto weighed 1 pound less than his last fight, that would make him severly drain

Sorry why would it make him severely weight drained?

[ICB]

If PAC wins, hopefully there is no excuses.

there will be because cotto weighed 1 pound less than his last fight, that would make him severly drain

Sorry why would it make him severely weight drained?

He's being sarcastic.

[Kev]

there will be because cotto weighed 1 pound less than his last fight, that would make him severly drain

Sorry why would it make him severely weight drained?

He's being sarcastic.

lmao Taeth understands sarcasm worse than ICB.

[ICB]

Sorry why would it make him severely weight drained?

He's being sarcastic.

lmao Taeth understands sarcasm worse than ICB.

Are you actually being serious about Amir Khan ? because lately i've been gobsmacked by some of your comments regarding Amir Khan

[Kev]

He's being sarcastic.

lmao Taeth understands sarcasm worse than ICB.

Are you actually being serious about Amir Khan ? because lately i've been gobsmacked by some of your comments regarding Amir Khan

I think he's a very talented fighter. Do I think he's on the level of Marquez, Pacquaio, Mayweather right now? Absolutely not.

Do I think that by the end of 2010 that Marquez will have slipped enough and Khan improved to make it a real 50/50 fight? Absolutely!

In all honesty if I would have said just prior to Ricky Hatton facing Floyd Mayweather that I believed that Amir could beat him, I would have been laughed off the forum.

What about if Khan and Hatton were to fight next? Now people arn't going to be nearly so confident, in fact Khan might even start as the slight betting favourite.

Calzaghe according to you is not a fraction of the fighter that Hopkins and Roy Jones are yet he beat both of them, Steve Collins beat both Eubank and Benn twice each yet few will rate Collins as highly as either.

The fact is timing plays a large part, Khan is on the way up, Marquez is on the way down, how long it takes before the pendulum shifts in the favour of Khan I'm not sure but I'd imagine a fight 18 months from now would certainly be interesting.

[ICB]

lmao Taeth understands sarcasm worse than ICB.

Are you actually being serious about Amir Khan ? because lately i've been gobsmacked by some of your comments regarding Amir Khan

I think he's a very talented fighter. Do I think he's on the level of Marquez, Pacquaio, Mayweather right now? Absolutely not.

Do I think that by the end of 2010 that Marquez will have slipped enough and Khan improved to make it a real 50/50 fight? Absolutely!

In all honesty if I would have said just prior to Ricky Hatton facing Floyd Mayweather that I believed that Amir could beat him, I would have been laughed off the forum.

What about if Khan and Hatton were to fight next? Now people arn't going to be nearly so confident, in fact Khan might even start as the slight betting favourite.

Calzaghe according to you is not a fraction of the fighter that Hopkins and Roy Jones are yet he beat both of them, Steve Collins beat both Eubank and Benn twice each yet few will rate Collins as highly as either.

The fact is timing plays a large part, Khan is on the way up, Marquez is on the way down, how long it takes before the pendulum shifts in the favour of Khan I'm not sure but I'd imagine a fight 18 months from now would certainly be interesting.

I'll reply to this later.

[OumaFan]

the world awaits

[ICB]

lmao Taeth understands sarcasm worse than ICB.

Are you actually being serious about Amir Khan ? because lately i've been gobsmacked by some of your comments regarding Amir Khan

I think he's a very talented fighter. Do I think he's on the level of Marquez, Pacquaio, Mayweather right now? Absolutely not.

Do I think that by the end of 2010 that Marquez will have slipped enough and Khan improved to make it a real 50/50 fight? Absolutely!

In all honesty if I would have said just prior to Ricky Hatton facing Floyd Mayweather that I believed that Amir could beat him, I would have been laughed off the forum.

What about if Khan and Hatton were to fight next? Now people arn't going to be nearly so confident, in fact Khan might even start as the slight betting favourite.

Calzaghe according to you is not a fraction of the fighter that Hopkins and Roy Jones are yet he beat both of them, Steve Collins beat both Eubank and Benn twice each yet few will rate Collins as highly as either.

The fact is timing plays a large part, Khan is on the way up, Marquez is on the way down, how long it takes before the pendulum shifts in the favour of Khan I'm not sure but I'd imagine a fight 18 months from now would certainly be interesting.

I think he's talented aswell i've never said he isn't, but we still don't know how good he is. I give him credit for the Andriy Kotelnik win, and it was a good win over a solid opponent, but theres many more dangerous opponents at 140.

Devon Alexander
Junior Witter
Marcos Rene Maidana
Timothy Bradley
Kendall Holt
Ricardo Torres
Lamont Peterson
Mike Alvrado
Randall Bailey

As for JMM well i think the type of fighter he is, even if he shows that he is slowing down. His technical skills alone will get him through most fights, i think its all assumption on your part Bilbo, i think JMM has atleast 3 good ones left in him. And whats to say Amir Khan won't lose by then aswell ?

As for Ricky Hatton i've never really been a fan, and i've never thought as him as anything special to be honest. He was good in the Kostya Tszyu fight, but again the ref allowed him to hold constantly, which worked and was a good tactic. But i've never been overly impressed with him in any fight IMO. And even if Amir Khan were to fight the Ricky Hatton of old, i'd still give him a decent shot.

Well i don't think Bernard Hopkins, is alot better than Joe Calzaghe. But i think the Bernard Hopkins that beat Glen Johnson or Felix Trinidad, would of beaten him, RJJ is a different matter he was almost unbeatable at his best. IMO he would of masscared Joe Calzaghe.

RJJ was shot and everyone knew he was shot, it wasn't a suprise he lost. As many people were calling the fight a farce. Bernard Hopkins is still a very good fighter but he lacks the workrate he had in his youth, which lost him the fight although i thought it nicked it but whatever.

I think Steve Collins is underrated, he was only a novice. And he gave Mike McCallum a good argument. His other losses were too, two very good fighters like Reggie Johnson, Sumbu Kalambay.

I don't count his win over Nigel Benn, because Nigel Benn was clearly finished. After the loss to Thulani Malinga, and his brutal war with Gerald McClellan.

His win over Chris Eubank should be given credit though, Chris Eubank was 41-0. With a combined 19 title defenses at Middleweight/Super Middleweight.

Yes the Michael Watson win affected his killer instinct, but he still was good. As he showed in his brave effort's against Carl Thompson at Cruiserweight.

Lastly i just think its too early to say Amir Khan, has a shot against JMM. JMM is an excellent boxer and i've seen many of his fights, and i've been pretty much impressed with him in all his fights.

His counter-punching/technical fighting, are some of the best i've seen of this era, his heart is the size of Texas. And he isn't afraid of no one, and i don't see how he's on his way down, he fought the fight of his life against Juan Diaz.

Not long ago Amir Khan was getting dropped, by fighters like Michael Gomez. Yes Amir Khan has improved, but again Andriy Kotelnik is pretty ordinary IMO, he's a solid opponent but he doesn't hit hard, nor is he fast. He does nothing that stands out to me, and he was the right opponent for Amir Khan to look good against.

Thats not taking his win away either, i think it was a good performance. But again that performance says nothing about how he would do, against the likes of JMM.

Amir Khan was getting caught late on aswell, imagine if that would of been against a harder hitting opponent ?

Amir Khan has an improved defense and boxing brain, but i still can't see him beating the big boys. Especially with his chin no way IMO.

[Taeth]

Sorry why would it make him severely weight drained?

He's being sarcastic.

lmao Taeth understands sarcasm worse than ICB.

I understand well formated sarcasm, but when it makes no sense I don't understand it.

Anyways IMO 145 can help Cotto because it will make his movement a little quicker which is the only chance he has of catching Pacquiao, even if he was as fast as he was at 140, I just can't see Miguel cutting the distance as quick as Manny can expand it.

[JazMerkin]

He's being sarcastic.

lmao Taeth understands sarcasm worse than ICB.

I understand well formated sarcasm, but when it makes no sense I don't understand it.

Anyways IMO 145 can help Cotto because it will make his movement a little quicker which is the only chance he has of catching Pacquiao, even if he was as fast as he was at 140, I just can't see Miguel cutting the distance as quick as Manny can expand it.

It did have the sarcasm () smiley next to it, that should have been the dead giveaway

I don't think 145 will help Cotto, but I don't see it majorly hindering him. Pacquiao beats him though, my only concern is both guys are fairly strong starters & can fade off a bit, so that might play into one of their hands

[Kev]

lmao Taeth understands sarcasm worse than ICB.

I understand well formated sarcasm, but when it makes no sense I don't understand it.

Anyways IMO 145 can help Cotto because it will make his movement a little quicker which is the only chance he has of catching Pacquiao, even if he was as fast as he was at 140, I just can't see Miguel cutting the distance as quick as Manny can expand it.

It did have the sarcasm () smiley next to it, that should have been the dead giveaway

I don't think 145 will help Cotto, but I don't see it majorly hindering him. Pacquiao beats him though, my only concern is both guys are fairly strong starters & can fade off a bit, so that might play into one of their hands

I see it as a genuine toss up. I think this is easily Manny's biggest challenge to date.

Cotto is a DANGEROUS fighter, he's got a great shot at winning this, I don't understand how quickly people have written him off.

[Taeth]

I understand well formated sarcasm, but when it makes no sense I don't understand it.

Anyways IMO 145 can help Cotto because it will make his movement a little quicker which is the only chance he has of catching Pacquiao, even if he was as fast as he was at 140, I just can't see Miguel cutting the distance as quick as Manny can expand it.

It did have the sarcasm () smiley next to it, that should have been the dead giveaway

I don't think 145 will help Cotto, but I don't see it majorly hindering him. Pacquiao beats him though, my only concern is both guys are fairly strong starters & can fade off a bit, so that might play into one of their hands

I see it as a genuine toss up. I think this is easily Manny's biggest challenge to date.

Cotto is a DANGEROUS fighter, he's got a great shot at winning this, I don't understand how quickly people have written him off.

Its not as much about writting Cotto of as a fighter in general, put him in with Mosley, Berto, Collazo, Quintana, Khan, etc, etc. I would favor Cotto to win, but Pacquiao is the ony guy IMO that is all wrong for him.

Cotto is wide up to the left cross or uppercut, IMO Pacquiao definitely has the power to hurt him, if not with one shot than with an acculation effect, and while Cotto has great timing and good handspeed, I don't think his timing is as good as Pacquiao's, and he doesn't have the footspeed to close the gap.

[Taeth]

When has Pacquiao slowed down late? Even in Pacquiao-Marquez I, and Pacquiao-Morales I he finished up pretty strong considering the beating he took over the middle rounds. He also stayed strong against De La Hoya, David Diaz, Barrera, in the second Marquez fight where both of them were absolutely amazing coming down the stretch. IMO Manny starts strong, but he finishes stronger, and for Cotto it depends on the fight, if he is sustaining a lot of damage and/or pressure he usually fades, but he still stays mentally sharp, and he stayed strong against Judah.