Heavyweight Roy Jones Vs Heavyweight James Toney

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Good post, totally agree with all of that. For a fair period after moving up form cruiserweight Toney was still remarkably good. Great handspeed, movement, and still a fair bit of pop.

I think people are forgetting how well, James Toney was doing between 2003-2005. I mean he arguably had some of his finest performances, between beating Vassiliy Jirov, up until beating Dominick Guinn.

And i thought he looked good in all those fights, his weight did start to go up when he fought Rydell Booker. But he was still fine his workrate was good, his power was good considering the cirumstances. His speed was good enough and his defense as it always is, was superb.

Any version of jones beats any version of Toney. All the fighters that they share in common...Toney struggled with while Jones blew them away not too mention he soundly beat Toney himself. Someone mentioned that Toney looked good against Nunn..he was thoroughly being outboxed until he landed the lucky KO blow. Jones didn't lose that much in the abilities that separated him from Toney in their first fight, if anything Toney would have been a sitting duck because he actually stopped moving at the higher weights.

What fighters did James Toney struggle with, that RJJ blew away ? he beat Merqui Sosa easily, he beat Tony Thorton easily. He struggled against Montel Griffin the 1st time, like RJJ did. But in the rematch he beat him clearly but was robbed.

He struggled against an almost prime Mike McCallum, not the 40 year old version RJJ fought, and by the way. James Toney fought the same Mike McCallum, RJJ did in the 3rd meeting between James Toney and Mike McCallum. And he pretty much done the same as RJJ did. A 9-3 or 8-4 victory.

James Toney did struggle against Reggie Johnson, but he won a clear decision because he won a majority of the later rounds. Pay no attention to the SD victory it says on boxrec, James Toney clearly won by a few points. And lets remember that was a prime Reggie Johnson, not the 35 year old Reggie Johnson RJJ fought. And remember there was an 8 year difference between Reggie Johnson fighting James Toney and RJJ.

I know you haven't seen James Toney vs Michael Nunn, because everyone who says James Toney was getting dominated. And got a lucky punch have just read articles or just looked on boxrec, and see the scorecards and thats not what actually happened.

What happened was that James Toney did lose alot of the early rounds, but he was hurt by nothing Michael Nunn landed. Then i think it was after the 6th round or 7th round, James Toney won every round and going into the 11th round, he had won 4 rounds on the trot.

And he was only behind by 2 rounds at most, and Michael Nunn was starting to tire. And you could actually see the KO was coming, it wasn't a lucky punch at all and James Toney still could of earned a draw or even won.

The reason why when you look on boxrec, that the scorecards are wide. Is because it was in Michael Nunn's hometown. But in truth it was a close fight and James Toney was coming on strong, and Michael Nunn started to fade badly.

Lastly let me also tell you another fact, you may not of known. That was James Toney's first world title shot, so he was still inexperienced. And he was fighting a 6'3 P4P number 3 world champion, who was at that time considered to be a future ATG. And lets also remember theres rumours. That RJJ even avoided Michael Nunn, and for good reason because Michael Nunn would of gave him fits.