Jones Jr vs Green

[CFH]

Define "world class". Danny Green is a decent fighter, but he's not world class in any way I've heard the term defined.

[Kev]

Define "world class". Danny Green is a decent fighter, but he's not world class in any way I've heard the term defined.

Well he's won one legit world title (WBA), should have won two when Beyer robbed him and he's won a couple IBO world titles.

If you have won a world title then by definition you must be world class, i.e he mixes with world class opposition.

He's not an elite fighter, and he's certainly not p4p but he's world class for sure, how could you be a world champ and not?

[ICB]

This will be a repeat of Anthony Mundine vs Danny Green.

[CFH]

Define "world class". Danny Green is a decent fighter, but he's not world class in any way I've heard the term defined.

Well he's won one legit world title (WBA), should have won two when Beyer robbed him and he's won a couple IBO world titles.

If you have won a world title then by definition you must be world class, i.e he mixes with world class opposition.

He's not an elite fighter, and he's certainly not p4p but he's world class for sure, how could you be a world champ and not?

The sanctioning bodies and their champs/rankings are not always a legitimate representation of the talent of the divisions they rank.

So you would define "world class" as anyone who holds a championship belt?

[Kev]

Define "world class". Danny Green is a decent fighter, but he's not world class in any way I've heard the term defined.

Well he's won one legit world title (WBA), should have won two when Beyer robbed him and he's won a couple IBO world titles.

If you have won a world title then by definition you must be world class, i.e he mixes with world class opposition.

He's not an elite fighter, and he's certainly not p4p but he's world class for sure, how could you be a world champ and not?

The sanctioning bodies and their champs/rankings are not always a legitimate representation of the talent of the divisions they rank.

So you would define "world class" as anyone who holds a championship belt?

Green is definitely world class in that he's one of the very best in his weight class, or has been in the past.

The Ring have had him in the top 4 or 5 at supermiddle before and he will likely crash the top 10 at crusierweight soon now he's come back.

He's a former world champ, how is he not world class?

Do you only count the best two fighters in a weight class world class? If so, what is elite?

[CFH]

Well he's won one legit world title (WBA), should have won two when Beyer robbed him and he's won a couple IBO world titles.

If you have won a world title then by definition you must be world class, i.e he mixes with world class opposition.

He's not an elite fighter, and he's certainly not p4p but he's world class for sure, how could you be a world champ and not?

The sanctioning bodies and their champs/rankings are not always a legitimate representation of the talent of the divisions they rank.

So you would define "world class" as anyone who holds a championship belt?

Green is definitely world class in that he's one of the very best in his weight class, or has been in the past.

The Ring have had him in the top 4 or 5 at supermiddle before and he will likely crash the top 10 at crusierweight soon now he's come back.

He's a former world champ, how is he not world class?

Do you only count the best two fighters in a weight class world class? If so, what is elite?

The term world class is vague and very subjective, hence why I asked you for your definition. Would I consider Danny Green a "world class" fighter? Not these days, in his prime I guess a case could be made. I guess it all depends on how you define the term. I've always considered Green to be an excellent domestic-level fighter. I was not a big boxing fan when he was in his prime though, so I'm not really qualified to argue about that.

When I think of "world class", I think of fighters who I perceive to be a step above fighters like Green.

[Kev]

The sanctioning bodies and their champs/rankings are not always a legitimate representation of the talent of the divisions they rank.

So you would define "world class" as anyone who holds a championship belt?

Green is definitely world class in that he's one of the very best in his weight class, or has been in the past.

The Ring have had him in the top 4 or 5 at supermiddle before and he will likely crash the top 10 at crusierweight soon now he's come back.

He's a former world champ, how is he not world class?

Do you only count the best two fighters in a weight class world class? If so, what is elite?

The term world class is vague and very subjective, hence why I asked you for your definition. Would I consider Danny Green a "world class" fighter? Not these days, in his prime I guess a case could be made. I guess it all depends on how you define the term. I've always considered Green to be an excellent domestic-level fighter. I was not a big boxing fan when he was in his prime though, so I'm not really qualified to argue about that.

When I think of "world class", I think of fighters who I perceive to be a step above fighters like Green.

Green is easily on the same level as guys such as Junior Witter, Paulie Malignaggi and Luis Collazo.

He's only ever lost to world champs, in fact only two men have ever beaten him, Marcus Beyer, a prime Beyer it has to be said and Green dominated him in the first fight flooring him 3 times with Beyer badly cut, but then the Germans jobbed him by disqualifying him to save Beyer.

The rematch Green inexplicably decided to box and lost a decision although he stepped it up in the last couple rounds and floored Beyer again.

Mundine beat him handily on points but he's the only man to do so.

I don't think it can be seriously argued that he hasn't been one of the best super middleweights over the past 5 or 6 years, and he was struggling to make weight I believe, hence the move to light heavyweight and now cruiser.

He's not an easy nights work for anybody, certainly not a 40 year old past his prime with suspect punch resistance.

It's a different fight altogether than Lacy and Sheika.

Should be a good'un.

[CFH]

Green is definitely world class in that he's one of the very best in his weight class, or has been in the past.

The Ring have had him in the top 4 or 5 at supermiddle before and he will likely crash the top 10 at crusierweight soon now he's come back.

He's a former world champ, how is he not world class?

Do you only count the best two fighters in a weight class world class? If so, what is elite?

The term world class is vague and very subjective, hence why I asked you for your definition. Would I consider Danny Green a "world class" fighter? Not these days, in his prime I guess a case could be made. I guess it all depends on how you define the term. I've always considered Green to be an excellent domestic-level fighter. I was not a big boxing fan when he was in his prime though, so I'm not really qualified to argue about that.

When I think of "world class", I think of fighters who I perceive to be a step above fighters like Green.

Green is easily on the same level as guys such as Junior Witter, Paulie Malignaggi and Luis Collazo.

He's only ever lost to world champs, in fact only two men have ever beaten him, Marcus Beyer, a prime Beyer it has to be said and Green dominated him in the first fight flooring him 3 times with Beyer badly cut, but then the Germans jobbed him by disqualifying him to save Beyer.

The rematch Green inexplicably decided to box and lost a decision although he stepped it up in the last couple rounds and floored Beyer again.

Mundine beat him handily on points but he's the only man to do so.

I don't think it can be seriously argued that he hasn't been one of the best super middleweights over the past 5 or 6 years, and he was struggling to make weight I believe, hence the move to light heavyweight and now cruiser.

He's not an easy nights work for anybody, certainly not a 40 year old past his prime with suspect punch resistance.

It's a different fight altogether than Lacy and Sheika.

Should be a good'un.

He hasn't even fought at SMW since 2006, over three years ago. I'm not arguing that he's not a very good fighter, but I really think you're overstating it a bit. He hasn't been a relevant fighter above the domestic level for some time.

I hope he knocks Jones cold though.

[DaxxKahn]

Define "world class". Danny Green is a decent fighter, but he's not world class in any way I've heard the term defined.

Well he's won one legit world title (WBA), should have won two when Beyer robbed him and he's won a couple IBO world titles.

If you have won a world title then by definition you must be world class, i.e he mixes with world class opposition.

He's not an elite fighter, and he's certainly not p4p but he's world class for sure, how could you be a world champ and not?

Great way to sum it up and explain the difference between

World Class and Elite.......