the jones of today vs pavlik

[blegit]

I just don't see Pavlik as a what people are saying he is. He is very predictable and telling. I think Roy fighting Pavlik would not be like Lacy. Remember Lacy doesn't just hit hard he also is about as strong of a fighter as you'll see. Lacy's body strength made Roy go to the ropes a lot more than he'd like. Pavlik hits hard but he isn't a strong body. So his pressure is more mobile. I think even this version of Roy would box circles around him. If Pavlik had the body strength he would have beaten BHop like Taylor did. Pavlik reminds me of Trinidad. Sharp strong punches but little body strength. I think you have to overpower Roy at this point. Of course, Pavlik has a puncher's chance against anyone though.

[Kev]

I just don't see Pavlik as a what people are saying he is. He is very predictable and telling. I think Roy fighting Pavlik would not be like Lacy. Remember Lacy doesn't just hit hard he also is about as strong of a fighter as you'll see. Lacy's body strength made Roy go to the ropes a lot more than he'd like. Pavlik hits hard but he isn't a strong body. So his pressure is more mobile. I think even this version of Roy would box circles around him. If Pavlik had the body strength he would have beaten BHop like Taylor did. Pavlik reminds me of Trinidad. Sharp strong punches but little body strength. I think you have to overpower Roy at this point. Of course, Pavlik has a puncher's chance against anyone though.

Pavlik is light years ahead of Jeff Lacy.

As an example look at what Pavlik did to Taylor and then look at what Taylor did to Lacy.

Jeff Lacy hasn't convingly won a fight since losing to Calzaghe, you could make a serious case that he lost every single one 7 in a row, in fact its really hard to say he won more than one, the fight with Manfredo, his other wins were dubious decisions at best.

If Jones thought he could hang with Pavlik or dawson don't you think he'd be trying to get those guys rather than the Lacy's and Sheika's of the world?

When he's fought world class opposition since the Ruiz fight he's been overmatched and mostly dominated. Tarver should have had 3 wins against him, Johnson dominated him, Calzaghe dominated him.

You guys are just wishful thinking, just like when we were expecting the next Tyson comeback, or Holyfield comeback. It ain't going to happen I'm afraid, not against the world's best.

[HattonTheHammer]

I just don't see Pavlik as a what people are saying he is. He is very predictable and telling. I think Roy fighting Pavlik would not be like Lacy. Remember Lacy doesn't just hit hard he also is about as strong of a fighter as you'll see. Lacy's body strength made Roy go to the ropes a lot more than he'd like. Pavlik hits hard but he isn't a strong body. So his pressure is more mobile. I think even this version of Roy would box circles around him. If Pavlik had the body strength he would have beaten BHop like Taylor did. Pavlik reminds me of Trinidad. Sharp strong punches but little body strength. I think you have to overpower Roy at this point. Of course, Pavlik has a puncher's chance against anyone though.

agreed

ive never bought into the pavlik phenomena and never will do. A world class fighter will always beat pavlik and that`ll once more be proven when williams beats kelly up.

Even a 40year old jones would be just too big a task for pavlik. If kelly cant see a hopkins uppercut what chance does he have with a jones hook