Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
Why is everybody saying Pavlik's power is missing at 168?

Are you telling me that unless a fighter can KO Bernard Hopkins and Jermain Taylor twice they are a non puncher?
Froch stopped Taylor at 168 Pavlik has no stoppages at 168 against anyone as far as I know.

He stopped Taylor at 160 but couldn't at 168. Froch stopped Taylor at 168 EVEN LACY was able to knock him down at 168 but Pavlik couldn't. I think its safe to say that his power is diminished at 168 and at 175 would be almost non existant.

Why are people saying that Roy has to move for 12 rounds to avoid Pavliks right hand. Hasn't the Hopkins fight showed you that you don't fight on the outside to beat him? What Hopkins did was he smothered Pavlik and got off combinations because Pavlik goes into a defensive shell when you open up and won't throw until you're at a distance otherwise he'll stand there and take punches. Roy would do that all night and probably could get a good rest just laying on the inside with Pavlik since Kelly will only throw when you are far enough away even Zertuche was giving Pavlik problems on the inside, isn't it obvious Pavlik can't fight on the inside and at the same time doesn't know how to keep people away because he is a stalking type of fighter, so if you stay on the outside with him he'll pick you apart but he doesn't know how to stop you coming in he just puts his hands up into a defensive shell. That kind of style is made for Roy to look great against. And at 175 I doubt Pavlik would be able to take everything Roy dished out.

You can't compare Tarver to Pavlik. Tarver is known to have big power at 175 not only that but he is a defensive counter puncher by nature that is good at setting traps and being defensive. Pavlik isn't and he doesn't. Also Pavlik isn't a southpaw. You can't compare both fighters. Because if you say that Roy couldn't beat Tarver I could say look how Hopkins massacred him. And at 175 whats to stop Roy from using the same gameplan? Especially since he'll be the bigger guy and stronger guy against Pavlik as well whats to stop him from imposing his will and going off on him? You just hold on to Pavlik landing that one big right hand but how is he gonna do that if Roy gives him no space?