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    Default Re: After watching Roy Jones taunt Lacy,he got what he deserved against Calzaghe!

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I didn't like seeing Calzaghe do it against Jones, or Jones against Lacy, as in each case it was a fighter doing it to a guy who had nothing left (or in Calzaghe's case, a guy who was a shadow of his former self). I'd like to see Jones try that against Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson or even Tavoris Cloud. Both of them doing it was embarassing, because it was not a case of showboating to show their talent, more to show the opponent's weakness. This was not showboating for the sake of showing their skill, it was doing it because they knew their opponent was beaten.
    Bingo.Both were way over the top.Especially when you see a guy talking to the crowd,commentators.Hate that with a passion.

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    Default Re: After watching Roy Jones taunt Lacy,he got what he deserved against Calzaghe!

    I don't see anything wrong with showboating (well maybe it's "wrong" if a clear mismatch beforehand). Maybe it is humiliating to the other fighter but should it bother him then it's clearly a good tactic to use.

    I clapped and let out some "whao!" watching Roy's exhibition against Lacy.

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. So Roy had NOTHING to complain about getting a taste of his own medicine against Calzaghe (and he didn't complain).
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    Default Re: After watching Roy Jones taunt Lacy,he got what he deserved against Calzaghe!

    showboating is ok but jones looked a bit silly jumping up and down.
    lacy never had a chance at any stage perhaps he should of claimed a shoulder or back injury a few weeks ago ,he would of saved himself from a beating

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    Default Re: After watching Roy Jones taunt Lacy,he got what he deserved against Calzaghe!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with showboating (well maybe it's "wrong" if a clear mismatch beforehand). Maybe it is humiliating to the other fighter but should it bother him then it's clearly a good tactic to use.

    I clapped and let out some "whao!" watching Roy's exhibition against Lacy.

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. So Roy had NOTHING to complain about getting a taste of his own medicine against Calzaghe (and he didn't complain).
    That's a good point. It's a valid tactic, I don't think hotdogging is wrong per se, I just don't like it. But the thing is with Roy, he never needed it. He was always perfectly capable of thrashing his overmatched opposition without it. As far back as you want to go. So it truly was just hot-dogging. And yeah, Roy never complained about Calzaghe, but his fans sure did.


    A good counterpoint is Leonard-Duran II. I'd say a little hotdogging probably worked wonders for Leonard.

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    Default Re: After watching Roy Jones taunt Lacy,he got what he deserved against Calzaghe!

    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with showboating (well maybe it's "wrong" if a clear mismatch beforehand). Maybe it is humiliating to the other fighter but should it bother him then it's clearly a good tactic to use.

    I clapped and let out some "whao!" watching Roy's exhibition against Lacy.

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. So Roy had NOTHING to complain about getting a taste of his own medicine against Calzaghe (and he didn't complain).
    That's a good point. It's a valid tactic, I don't think hotdogging is wrong per se, I just don't like it. But the thing is with Roy, he never needed it. He was always perfectly capable of thrashing his overmatched opposition without it. As far back as you want to go. So it truly was just hot-dogging. And yeah, Roy never complained about Calzaghe, but his fans sure did.


    A good counterpoint is Leonard-Duran II. I'd say a little hotdogging probably worked wonders for Leonard.
    It's part of the show though. The majority of the crowd love that stuff. You always hear the cheers go up which has the bonus of influencing the judges.
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    Default Re: After watching Roy Jones taunt Lacy,he got what he deserved against Calzaghe!

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I didn't like seeing Calzaghe do it against Jones, or Jones against Lacy, as in each case it was a fighter doing it to a guy who had nothing left (or in Calzaghe's case, a guy who was a shadow of his former self). I'd like to see Jones try that against Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson or even Tavoris Cloud. Both of them doing it was embarassing, because it was not a case of showboating to show their talent, more to show the opponent's weakness. This was not showboating for the sake of showing their skill, it was doing it because they knew their opponent was beaten.
    Bingo.Both were way over the top.Especially when you see a guy talking to the crowd,commentators.Hate that with a passion.
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    Default Re: After watching Roy Jones taunt Lacy,he got what he deserved against Calzaghe!

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I didn't like seeing Calzaghe do it against Jones, or Jones against Lacy, as in each case it was a fighter doing it to a guy who had nothing left (or in Calzaghe's case, a guy who was a shadow of his former self). I'd like to see Jones try that against Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson or even Tavoris Cloud. Both of them doing it was embarassing, because it was not a case of showboating to show their talent, more to show the opponent's weakness. This was not showboating for the sake of showing their skill, it was doing it because they knew their opponent was beaten.
    Bingo.Both were way over the top.Especially when you see a guy talking to the crowd,commentators.Hate that with a passion.
    I actually thought it was great when Jones in his prime & Mayweather were doing that, absolutely loved it, or when Roy would turn his back on opponents. However, they were doing it not because their opponent was weak (Jesus Chavez gave Mayweather the 2nd toughest fight of his career IMO) but because they were that good. They didn't do it because they were facing a shell, which I felt was what Calzaghe & Jones did. I didn't mind Calzaghe doing it against Lacy, because it was demonstrating just how good he was. Same with Hopkins/Pavlik, Leonard vs Duran/Hagler. But Jones & Calzaghe were doing it because they could get away with it, neither now would have risked that against an elite LHW.

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    Default Re: After watching Roy Jones taunt Lacy,he got what he deserved against Calzaghe!

    Lamley is kind of a @ss for yelling "eagles or falcons Floyd" during the round. No respect for Bruseles who was fighting his best. As for showboating, I have no problem with it, but dont be surprised if its a close round and the judges give it to the other guy in a tight fight. Judah-Baldomir or Jones-Tarver two are examples of when the other guy isnt bother by the showboating, and in turn the showboater is the one who get broken. Campbell-Peden is another case of boxing getting the better of ego. Still, I like entertainment in the ring, Ive done my share of showboating as im sure most boxer have. Its just part of the entertainment aspect of the sport.
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    Default Re: After watching Roy Jones taunt Lacy,he got what he deserved against Calzaghe!

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I didn't like seeing Calzaghe do it against Jones, or Jones against Lacy, as in each case it was a fighter doing it to a guy who had nothing left (or in Calzaghe's case, a guy who was a shadow of his former self). I'd like to see Jones try that against Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson or even Tavoris Cloud. Both of them doing it was embarassing, because it was not a case of showboating to show their talent, more to show the opponent's weakness. This was not showboating for the sake of showing their skill, it was doing it because they knew their opponent was beaten.
    Bingo.Both were way over the top.Especially when you see a guy talking to the crowd,commentators.Hate that with a passion.
    I actually thought it was great when Jones in his prime & Mayweather were doing that, absolutely loved it, or when Roy would turn his back on opponents. However, they were doing it not because their opponent was weak (Jesus Chavez gave Mayweather the 2nd toughest fight of his career IMO) but because they were that good. They didn't do it because they were facing a shell, which I felt was what Calzaghe & Jones did. I didn't mind Calzaghe doing it against Lacy, because it was demonstrating just how good he was. Same with Hopkins/Pavlik, Leonard vs Duran/Hagler. But Jones & Calzaghe were doing it because they could get away with it, neither now would have risked that against an elite LHW.
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    Default Re: After watching Roy Jones taunt Lacy,he got what he deserved against Calzaghe!

    ...i actually don't have a problem with it, all part of the game. Would i do it ? Probably not, but no one picked lacy off the street and told him to fight. You have the possibility of winning or being made a fool of you never know. The best way to keep a guy from showboating, or heck even from doing touchdown dances in football for that matter is to not let them score in the first place. Lacy had no problem sucking up the glory from winning and put himself in the situation in the first place. He took a chance taking a fight when he really should have had his ass at home withthe rest of us. He shouldn't be taking any more fights really. Because you put up such little resistance that a guy can build a toolshed and beat you at the same time is no fault of jones..to taunt is his style he continues to do it and his fans keep cheering so ..... look they both got paid, don't feel to sorry for either. As a side note i don't really like jones so a lot of things he does bugs me but hey, the goal is to win the fight not to end up with a bunch of friends at the end of your career. And that he did so congrats either way.
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