How skilled is Wladimir Klitschko really?

[ryanman]

even his fans admit this.

he's a basic fighter. he and wladimir klitschko are called robots for a reason. i don't see how you can't see that. he fights in a division full of basic fighters and he's the least flawed one. The jab and the 1-2 is his bread and butter. he's a fine fighter and i like watching his fights but he's no technician.

firstly, are you only skillful if you are a 'technician'?
Secondly, I'm not sure his fans would refer to him as a 'robot'. Yes, he does fight in straight lines, but he moves well in these straight lines, in and out of range, in a subtle way. You also say he relys on the 1-2, but surely you can see he posesses a mean uppercut, not just powerful, but delivered with expert timing and speed. Is this not a 'skill'? I'm not saying he is the most skilled fighter ever, but calling him a 'robot', or a 'basic European fighter' is going too far. I think he combines a decent set of 'skill' with good power, chin and heart.

don't know what you're getting at. i'm not sure why you're even mentioning his chin and heart. Like I said, he's a fine fighter and he's very effective, but he's as basic as an elite boxer can get. his uppercut is delivered with expert timing and speed? hardly. Go watch Vernon Forrest.

I thought it was quite obvious what i was getting at. I think you are wrong to describe him as a 'robot', and a 'basic European fighter'. Thats it. Done. Thats the point. And i mention his chin and heart in ADDITION to his skills.

[jokaleras]

firstly, are you only skillful if you are a 'technician'?
Secondly, I'm not sure his fans would refer to him as a 'robot'. Yes, he does fight in straight lines, but he moves well in these straight lines, in and out of range, in a subtle way. You also say he relys on the 1-2, but surely you can see he posesses a mean uppercut, not just powerful, but delivered with expert timing and speed. Is this not a 'skill'? I'm not saying he is the most skilled fighter ever, but calling him a 'robot', or a 'basic European fighter' is going too far. I think he combines a decent set of 'skill' with good power, chin and heart.

don't know what you're getting at. i'm not sure why you're even mentioning his chin and heart. Like I said, he's a fine fighter and he's very effective, but he's as basic as an elite boxer can get. his uppercut is delivered with expert timing and speed? hardly. Go watch Vernon Forrest.

I thought it was quite obvious what i was getting at. I think you are wrong to describe him as a 'robot', and a 'basic European fighter'. Thats it. Done. Thats the point. And i mention his chin and heart in ADDITION to his skills.

alright. don't get me wrong, i think Kessler's a top fighter and an impressive athlete. but he is basic. he'd probably do much better with a better trainer.

[Mr140]

Yet again here we go you are trying to compare a lmw with a hw which does not work. If Veron was as big as Wald was i doubt his skill set would be much better you can not compare a Hw with the other divisions. Thats why i think Ali is one of the most skilled fighters to step foot in the ring. The man could do all the things the lower weight guys could do and for a his size thats a hard thing to do so i dont expect every heavy to do it. If you want to see a heavyweight guy that is as big as Wald, fight like a Whitker, Mayweather, Hopkins, Leonard or a jones you are watching the wrong division my friend. Reason why is that you most likly while not get what you are looking for.