Top Amateurs need to start faster

[Violent Demise]

The guy's about to have his third fight

Three fights. 3. Who cares what a guy does in his first three fights?

When people claim your the greatest amateur fighter ever and a for sure pound for pound fighter it matters

I think the boxer and his team need to establish a four year plan to fight for a title. Each step along the way should be a slow improvement in quality of opposition and a test against various styles.

Like Russ Abner is doing with Canadian David Lemuiex (16-0 with 16 kos). That is agreat model to follow IMO.

I've had my eye on Lemieux since he turned pro.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post505336

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post505361

I think he was 4-0 at that time

[El Kabong]

I think we can say Tavoris Cloud has moved along quite nicely. He could have EASILY been in over his head vs Clinton Woods this early in his career.

[holmcall]

I think we can say Tavoris Cloud has moved along quite nicely. He could have EASILY been in over his head vs Clinton Woods this early in his career.

I agree. His team has handled him very well. He comes to fight a full 12 rounds.

[El Kabong]

I think we can say Tavoris Cloud has moved along quite nicely. He could have EASILY been in over his head vs Clinton Woods this early in his career.

I agree. His team has handled him very well. He comes to fight a full 12 rounds.

Yeah, it's surprising a pure power puncher like him that is as green as he is can make it 12 without having too much trouble. Some power fighters tucker out in the late rounds, Cloud was still doing good work late in the fight...good for him and his trainers! Now if only he could make someone miss with some punches

[Spicoli]

They just force feed alot of these young guys to us.You do not have to air every single fight of a guys first 5,6,7 contests and brand them the next coming of Leonard,Ali and other greats.It has really gone off of the deep end last couple of years & way to much emphasis on glossy amateur records.These are the padding years and working the kinks out with very low level comp who fall over with eagerness,sort of like watching sausage being made.If the networks-promoters insist on the big push and want us to believe...they need to require sterner and breathing opponents to gauge them by.

[amat]

OK how can you possibly argue that Danny Jacobs is being brought up to slow? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? He's less then 2 years into his career with 18 fights, he's been fighting pretty much nonstop and he's 22 years old! 22 years old! Do you know how young that is? For him you just want to have him out there learning on the job and let his body fully develop. Shit man not everyone is Tszyu or De La Hoya.

With the Cubans I can see your point, with the exception of Gamboa who is younger then Solis and Rigondeaux. Solis has been a bit of a dud as far as his competition goes, you would like to see him making more strides in what is seen as a down heavyweight division. I think he's kind of just got stuck and has been going through the motions in Germany earning a healthy living probably. That's the thing we have to remember about Cubans is that the switch from Cuba to the US requires just as much adjusting then making the switch from amateur to pro. It's a lot but Rigondeaux is a special talent I wouldn't think it will take to long to get the ball rolling.

[OumaFan]

The guy's about to have his third fight

Three fights. 3. Who cares what a guy does in his first three fights?

When people claim your the greatest amateur fighter ever and a for sure pound for pound fighter it matters

No, I still don't think so, its just nitpicking to me. Its three fights In fact I'm proposing a new rule, no one can complain about who somebody fights in his first three fights. I doubt it will pass. His fourth fight though is fair game

[amat]

You like what they are doing with David Lemieux but not Danny Jacobs? That is a MASSIVE contradiction.

[holmcall]

You like what they are doing with David Lemieux but not Danny Jacobs? That is a MASSIVE contradiction.

I know. I admit it is. But David is on a strategic plan laid out by Russ Abner and his team. He is 17-0 with 17 KO's. He is being brought along very carefully because he is young and did not have the great amature career that Jacobs had. Look, with Jacobs, he has now found a groove. Also, his frequency of fights has been superb. It's just that his early wins made it appear that he was a KO artist which he is not. I truly believe David is. Time will tell.

Your point, however, is taken.