Top Amateurs need to start faster

[Taeth]

I'm aware of that, however regardless of that he's still a difficult opponent for only a 3rd professional fight. I've no doubt Rigondeaux beats him & handily, but the number of rounds (10) also makes it an impressive fight, given it being only his 3rd.

Really he's not. One look at his record says it all. He's a D level fighter who's bulid up his win total by beating fellow D and F leval fighters. I would not consider him a step up

Fair enough, but I still think that fighting 10 rounds in only his 3rd pro fight is worthy of credit. On another note, I was doing the boxrec thing & saw Rigondeaux's last tomato can beat the only man to ever beat Nonito Donaire. So following Hatton-hugger logic (Hatton KO'd Castillo who Mayweather only closely beat) that must mean that Rigondeaux is now pound for pound top 10. Taeth will be happy

Sorry what has Rigondeaux done so far to not prove him to be a future top boxer in the sport? After watching him, and all his fights that are on youtube, how can you not be convinced of how good he is? Or do we have to weight for him to beat guys like Vazquez, JML, Marquez, and Gamboa? Because it will happen in the next couple of years.

[Zelley]

I think the boxer and his team need to establish a four year plan to fight for a title. Each step along the way should be a slow improvement in quality of opposition and a test against various styles.

[holmcall]

I think the boxer and his team need to establish a four year plan to fight for a title. Each step along the way should be a slow improvement in quality of opposition and a test against various styles.

Like Russ Abner is doing with Canadian David Lemuiex (16-0 with 16 kos). That is agreat model to follow IMO.

[jokaleras]

you forgot to space between 'a' and 'great'. otherwise, good call holmcall.

[holmcall]

you forgot to space between 'a' and 'great'. otherwise, good call holmcall.

AAaargh!

[Violent Demise]

The guy's about to have his third fight

Three fights. 3. Who cares what a guy does in his first three fights?

When people claim your the greatest amateur fighter ever and a for sure pound for pound fighter it matters

I think the boxer and his team need to establish a four year plan to fight for a title. Each step along the way should be a slow improvement in quality of opposition and a test against various styles.

Like Russ Abner is doing with Canadian David Lemuiex (16-0 with 16 kos). That is agreat model to follow IMO.

I've had my eye on Lemieux since he turned pro.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post505336

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post505361

I think he was 4-0 at that time

[El Kabong]

I think we can say Tavoris Cloud has moved along quite nicely. He could have EASILY been in over his head vs Clinton Woods this early in his career.

[holmcall]

I think we can say Tavoris Cloud has moved along quite nicely. He could have EASILY been in over his head vs Clinton Woods this early in his career.

I agree. His team has handled him very well. He comes to fight a full 12 rounds.

[El Kabong]

I think we can say Tavoris Cloud has moved along quite nicely. He could have EASILY been in over his head vs Clinton Woods this early in his career.

I agree. His team has handled him very well. He comes to fight a full 12 rounds.

Yeah, it's surprising a pure power puncher like him that is as green as he is can make it 12 without having too much trouble. Some power fighters tucker out in the late rounds, Cloud was still doing good work late in the fight...good for him and his trainers! Now if only he could make someone miss with some punches

[OumaFan]

The guy's about to have his third fight

Three fights. 3. Who cares what a guy does in his first three fights?

When people claim your the greatest amateur fighter ever and a for sure pound for pound fighter it matters

No, I still don't think so, its just nitpicking to me. Its three fights In fact I'm proposing a new rule, no one can complain about who somebody fights in his first three fights. I doubt it will pass. His fourth fight though is fair game

[amat]

You like what they are doing with David Lemieux but not Danny Jacobs? That is a MASSIVE contradiction.

[holmcall]

You like what they are doing with David Lemieux but not Danny Jacobs? That is a MASSIVE contradiction.

I know. I admit it is. But David is on a strategic plan laid out by Russ Abner and his team. He is 17-0 with 17 KO's. He is being brought along very carefully because he is young and did not have the great amature career that Jacobs had. Look, with Jacobs, he has now found a groove. Also, his frequency of fights has been superb. It's just that his early wins made it appear that he was a KO artist which he is not. I truly believe David is. Time will tell.

Your point, however, is taken.

[JazMerkin]

Really he's not. One look at his record says it all. He's a D level fighter who's bulid up his win total by beating fellow D and F leval fighters. I would not consider him a step up

Fair enough, but I still think that fighting 10 rounds in only his 3rd pro fight is worthy of credit. On another note, I was doing the boxrec thing & saw Rigondeaux's last tomato can beat the only man to ever beat Nonito Donaire. So following Hatton-hugger logic (Hatton KO'd Castillo who Mayweather only closely beat) that must mean that Rigondeaux is now pound for pound top 10. Taeth will be happy

Sorry what has Rigondeaux done so far to not prove him to be a future top boxer in the sport? After watching him, and all his fights that are on youtube, how can you not be convinced of how good he is? Or do we have to weight for him to beat guys like Vazquez, JML, Marquez, and Gamboa? Because it will happen in the next couple of years.

[jokaleras]

wilder has little amateur experience.