The Mayweathers

[Julius Rain]

Yes, he did, he was the lineal Super-Featherweight champion in the 80s.

Some might consider his win over Rene Arredondo worthy of also making him lineal champ at Light-Welter, following on from Arredondo's fights with Hamada, but personally I wouldn't say there was a lineal champion till JCC beat Mayweather as they were IMO the 2 best guys in the division at that time.

Even then you could even make an argument that it was the Taylor-Chavez fight that was the 'real' lineal championship fight.

Roger is an accomplish fighter then, but how great of a trainer is he?

About the Lineal LWW Championship, I go with Taylor Chavez.

I've already answered that earlier, he's good, not great. My problem was you saying he wasn't much of a fighter, which just wasn't the case for anyone who's seen him.

Obviously as you haven't seen him fight you will go with the only one you've seen, but Mayweather-Chavez was the real lineal fight, the 2 best guys going at it. Although more knowledgable posters than myself have said it should have been the Arredondo-Hamada second fight, & the lineage goes from there.

I have seen a few of his fight, and in relation to my first statement about him I admit I was comparing the other mayweathers to floyd jr. Roger of all the other mayweather besides floyd jr, is an accomplish fighter but is far from great compare to floyd jr.

I forget sometimes it can be very sensitive around here, i should of worded my sentence better.

Back to the topic,...right you did say the Mayweathers are good trainers but not great.