had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

[Althugz]

ok guys i know we`ve been here 747,825,190 times already but what with floyds win on saturday ive once again been trawling through his career set and not for the 1st time cant stomach myself to watch past 5rounds of mayweather-hatton.

It was clear for all to see that floyds sharp overhand right f*cked hatton up everytime and that floyd had not just the speed but power advantage on ricky. But once again the fury of the performance of cortez who pretty much f*cked hattons entire gameplan is there for all to see.

Ricky is the only man to date to genuinely hurt floyd. Had the ropes had not been there in the 1st floyd would of dropped like a sack of shit and every SINGLE time hatton exploded inside landing flat on floyds chin, mayweather hugged hatton leading to joe warning hatton for what i can only presume as being "too over exhuberant"

Between 6-10 this wasnt the case, floyd whooped hatton all over the ring and showed what a class act he really is. But the annoyance is still there 2 years after it happened. Hattons gameplan WAS working a dream up until cortez decided to stamp it out and without doubt he was dominating a superior fighter with excellent tactics and footwork.

HAD lets say a kenny bayliss for instance of reffed the fight would floyd right now be sitting here with a record of 39-1?

Oh for gods sake...

Majesty, I wish I stopped reading too...



P.S. If we're discussing the Kostya fight as well, then we must talk about the legit knockdown that Kostya scored via the perfectly placed body shot to Ricky's stomach. Paris called it a low blow

Kostya should never have come over here but the allure of a big payday was too great I suppose.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Dave Parris has employed the same ethos all his career

Had that of been O`connell, vann or any other british ref that would of been the same outcome. Hatton did NOTHING illegal in that fight and kostya simply got beat by a man who was far superior at what he was doing.

Yes had that fight of been in a bigger ring somewhere in melbourne there may have been a different result due to the fact different board of controls read from different textbooks. But it wasnt and despite the complaints hatton won a fair and square fight against a ring legend.

Entirely different story to what went down in vegas. Cortez did everything possible to ensure hatton didnt walk away as victor that night.

• the endless warnings for holding on
• endless occasions being told to keep his punches up
• getting warned between virtually every round about his conduct
• point deduction for hitting floyd in the back when it was floyd who blatantly dived under the ropes
• failure to spot at least a dozen floyd forearms to the face
• allowing mayweather to hold at every opportunity
• asking hatton at the end of the 8th if he`d like to stop the fight despite ricky being of perfect mind
• even at one point telling ricky he`d deduct a point unless he stopped talking(actually floyd as well which made it even more ridiculous)

Call me bitter but cortez robbed us of a fair fight

You are a fucken idiot mate. Nothing illegal?

Constant holding and hitting, rabbit punching.
Endless grappling and wrestling.
And the worst and most blatant low blow i have ever seen.
All Hatton did was lunge in and hold all night and was never warned!

If a fair ref had been in charge of the Hatton Tszyu fight there is far more chance Kostya would have won that fight than Hatton ever had v Mayweather as the scores were closer. Truth is as soon as Ricky didnt have the ref doing exactly what he wanted he was exposed.

And maybe u arent giving Joe credit, if Hatton had stopped at end of the 8th he wouldnt have got knocked the fuck out.

This vid shows it all, Parris warns Tszyu for a few meak hits that never went below the belt, then only warns Hatton for running up and punching Kostya as hard as he can in the balls, as if it were the same offense. In the video every clinch is instigated by Ricky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY1gr9pniIc

Nothing kostya wasnt giving back in return

This is boxing for f*cks sake, accidental low blows, headbutts etc occour in every round of every fight. Can you seriously hand on heart say having watched that fight hatton did enough to warrant either a points deduction or even being thrown out of the fight?

When you go to europe you expect that every single little foul will be dealt with in its severest form. Crowds are mostly silent throughout and anything slightly iffy gets handled with straight away. However in britain "boxing" contests more often than not escalate into fights because its what the common fan likes to see when he goes to watch an event. The crowds are raptuous, the entire feeling is a million times different than anything i dare say kostya would of experienced previously.

If Kostya seriously thought fighting infront of 22,500 mancs at 3 in the morning was gonna be anything other than a complete tearup then he needs his brain tested!!

so what's with bitching about the Mayweather forearm push?

[kingfrnk]

some of the most bias posting i seen in a while for overrated hatton

[HattonTheHammer]

ok guys i know we`ve been here 747,825,190 times already but what with floyds win on saturday ive once again been trawling through his career set and not for the 1st time cant stomach myself to watch past 5rounds of mayweather-hatton.

It was clear for all to see that floyds sharp overhand right f*cked hatton up everytime and that floyd had not just the speed but power advantage on ricky. But once again the fury of the performance of cortez who pretty much f*cked hattons entire gameplan is there for all to see.

Ricky is the only man to date to genuinely hurt floyd. Had the ropes had not been there in the 1st floyd would of dropped like a sack of shit and every SINGLE time hatton exploded inside landing flat on floyds chin, mayweather hugged hatton leading to joe warning hatton for what i can only presume as being "too over exhuberant"

Between 6-10 this wasnt the case, floyd whooped hatton all over the ring and showed what a class act he really is. But the annoyance is still there 2 years after it happened. Hattons gameplan WAS working a dream up until cortez decided to stamp it out and without doubt he was dominating a superior fighter with excellent tactics and footwork.

HAD lets say a kenny bayliss for instance of reffed the fight would floyd right now be sitting here with a record of 39-1?

Oh for gods sake...

Majesty, I wish I stopped reading too...



P.S. If we're discussing the Kostya fight as well, then we must talk about the legit knockdown that Kostya scored via the perfectly placed body shot to Ricky's stomach. Paris called it a low blow

Kostya should never have come over here but the allure of a big payday was too great I suppose.

fair enough talk away, hatton didnt touch the ground. Even had he of gone down the fight got stopped at the end of the 11th round and hatton won by TKO.

however if we are now scoring decent punches as knockdowns may i refer to the 11th round massacre where ricky pretty much had tszyu flat out on the ropes??

[ElTerribleMorales]

ok guys i know we`ve been here 747,825,190 times already but what with floyds win on saturday ive once again been trawling through his career set and not for the 1st time cant stomach myself to watch past 5rounds of mayweather-hatton.

It was clear for all to see that floyds sharp overhand right f*cked hatton up everytime and that floyd had not just the speed but power advantage on ricky. But once again the fury of the performance of cortez who pretty much f*cked hattons entire gameplan is there for all to see.

Ricky is the only man to date to genuinely hurt floyd. Had the ropes had not been there in the 1st floyd would of dropped like a sack of shit and every SINGLE time hatton exploded inside landing flat on floyds chin, mayweather hugged hatton leading to joe warning hatton for what i can only presume as being "too over exhuberant"

Between 6-10 this wasnt the case, floyd whooped hatton all over the ring and showed what a class act he really is. But the annoyance is still there 2 years after it happened. Hattons gameplan WAS working a dream up until cortez decided to stamp it out and without doubt he was dominating a superior fighter with excellent tactics and footwork.

HAD lets say a kenny bayliss for instance of reffed the fight would floyd right now be sitting here with a record of 39-1?

Oh for gods sake...

Majesty, I wish I stopped reading too...



P.S. If we're discussing the Kostya fight as well, then we must talk about the legit knockdown that Kostya scored via the perfectly placed body shot to Ricky's stomach. Paris called it a low blow

Kostya should never have come over here but the allure of a big payday was too great I suppose.

fair enough talk away, hatton didnt touch the ground. Even had he of gone down the fight got stopped at the end of the 11th round and hatton won by TKO.

however if we are now scoring decent punches as knockdowns may i refer to the 11th round massacre where ricky pretty much had tszyu flat out on the ropes??

and regardless who the ref was it didn't matter, cause Hatton got KTFO in the 10th against Mayweather, and even worse in the 2nd against Pacquiao, both came from a huge left to the head, end of

[HattonTheHammer]

Oh for gods sake...

Majesty, I wish I stopped reading too...



P.S. If we're discussing the Kostya fight as well, then we must talk about the legit knockdown that Kostya scored via the perfectly placed body shot to Ricky's stomach. Paris called it a low blow

Kostya should never have come over here but the allure of a big payday was too great I suppose.

fair enough talk away, hatton didnt touch the ground. Even had he of gone down the fight got stopped at the end of the 11th round and hatton won by TKO.

however if we are now scoring decent punches as knockdowns may i refer to the 11th round massacre where ricky pretty much had tszyu flat out on the ropes??

and regardless who the ref was it didn't matter, cause Hatton got KTFO in the 10th against Mayweather, and even worse in the 2nd against Pacquiao, both came from a huge left to the head, end of

Pac beat f*ck out of hatton and rightfully took the win

floyd on the other hand needed the refs assistance

thats all im saying........

[ElTerribleMorales]

fair enough talk away, hatton didnt touch the ground. Even had he of gone down the fight got stopped at the end of the 11th round and hatton won by TKO.

however if we are now scoring decent punches as knockdowns may i refer to the 11th round massacre where ricky pretty much had tszyu flat out on the ropes??

and regardless who the ref was it didn't matter, cause Hatton got KTFO in the 10th against Mayweather, and even worse in the 2nd against Pacquiao, both came from a huge left to the head, end of

Pac beat f*ck out of hatton and rightfully took the win

floyd on the other hand needed the refs assistance

thats all im saying........

not as bad as Hatton need the refs help against Tzyu and the judges help against Collazo

you're full of shit

thats all i'm saying........

[JonnyFolds]

I thought that Hatton-Tsqyu was equally refd. Ricky retaliating that time for the low blow (around the 6th) Tszyu did should have cost him a point.

And it was a very scrappy fight, but what are you gonna do? Let the guys fight. These guys both wanted it bad. It was a great matchup. Both these guys were tough as nails.

Oh yeah, but Hatton-MW. Hatton had his balloon deflated when the ref took the point away from him. I believe he was in the fight, but I don't think he would have been able to maintain that pace and intensity while missing 80% of his punches wide. Hatton shoudl have gotten Floyd Sr as his trainer before that fight. That was the real problem.

[HattonTheHammer]

and regardless who the ref was it didn't matter, cause Hatton got KTFO in the 10th against Mayweather, and even worse in the 2nd against Pacquiao, both came from a huge left to the head, end of

Pac beat f*ck out of hatton and rightfully took the win

floyd on the other hand needed the refs assistance

thats all im saying........

not as bad as Hatton need the refs help against Tzyu and the judges help against Collazo

you're full of shit

thats all i'm saying........

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[Tysonbruno]

End of the day Hatton fought a lot of his fights hooking holding and wrestling especially from Tszyu onwards the Mayweathers made this obvious to Cortez and he stopped Hatton doing it the fact of the matter is had Hatton been as good as his unbeaten 43-0 record was saying he was he would have kept his composure and found a plan b or c to win fact is his plan A was Hook his plan B was Hold and plan C Wrestle. In my opinion a fighter should only hold to the degree Hatton does to recover when hurt not as a game plan to get you through fights because you cant do it with boxing ability.

[Gandalf]

End of the day Hatton fought a lot of his fights hooking holding and wrestling especially from Tszyu onwards the Mayweathers made this obvious to Cortez and he stopped Hatton doing it the fact of the matter is had Hatton been as good as his unbeaten 43-0 record was saying he was he would have kept his composure and found a plan b or c to win fact is his plan A was Hook his plan B was Hold and plan C Wrestle. In my opinion a fighter should only hold to the degree Hatton does to recover when hurt not as a game plan to get you through fights because you cant do it with boxing ability.

For someone that you regard as having such limited talent Hatton did remarkably well. He beat a lot of decent opponents and a handful of very good ones. I do agree that his style got more and more ragged over time and the clinch and hold strategy got trying.

As for having a plan B and a plan C, it's easier said than done really. Especially when up against Mayweather. Nobody expected Cortez to such an outright cnut did they now? Now of course everyone is wary of Cortez and it is the performance he is most famous (or should that be infamous) for.

Mayweather might well have gone on to impale Hatton against the ringpost anyway, but there is always that question mark surrounding the fight for me. Revisionism seems to be everywhere now and thus his reputation is taking a hit. It happens to most fighters at some point. Getting sparked in two by Manny was never going to advance his stock.

[SweetPea]

For someone that you regard as having such limited talent Hatton did remarkably well. He beat a lot of decent opponents and a handful of very good ones.

I'm not the person you were responding to... but the statement above is a pretty good description of how I view Hatton.

A lot of Hatton fans will say that Ricky didn't make the most out of his career because of his habits in between fights (drinking, blowing up in weight, etc.), but I actually think Hatton got the most of his talent. If I saw a young fighter of Hatton's talent level and skillset, there's no way I would expect that fighter to become a true world champ.

He wasn't very skilled IMO, yet he became the legit lineal champ at 140 and defended successfully against some good solid fighters.

But the two times when Hatton got in the ring with a true elite prime opponent, he got beat handily. And what drives me nuts sometimes about Hatton (and some of his fans) is that instead of just saying "Hey, Floyd and Manny are great fighters who were just too good", it becomes a big excuse fest, be it blaming Cortez, or saying he had a bad training camp against Pacquiao.

To put it another way, if Hatton had upset Floyd in a physical fight, and then Floyd had spent the next 2 years blaming the ref for the loss, Hatton fans would be KILLING Floyd for being a crybaby and a primadonna.