Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

[CFH]

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

[brucelee]

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

LOL. Sorry for including Pac in this thread. I could not start a thread about it so with the spur of the moment I just have to ask about it.

David Diaz was a reasonable fight for Pac as he was the man who beat Erik Morales though I personally see that fight as a robbery on Erik's legacy.

Another question that has been in my mind is, how long would Juan last against Pac.

Regarding my question on Hatton vs Diaz, I'm wondering how would Diaz fare against Hatton given that Hatton handled Malignaggi easily.Of course styles make fight but given HAtton and Diaz' ability, styles won't really be a big factor here.

[amat]

Damn Miles, robbery? WTF? NO, that was no robbery in fact the 117-110 scorecard was more in line (imo) then any scorecard that has Malignaggi ahead. Please go rewatch that fight and alert me when Malignaggi lands a significant fight EVER. When you're not powerful, you're not ACCURATE (which hasn't been talked about at all) and you're not slick defensively, wtf are you? Paulie Malignaggi who could fight that same fight a million times and would get the nod 1 out of 10 times, the judges live were right just listen to the difference of sound in the punches. I had it 116-112 and scoring it any closer would require giving Malignaggi rounds where he did NOTHING offensively. I don't want a rematch.

[Gandalf]

Damn Miles, robbery? WTF? NO, that was no robbery in fact the 117-110 scorecard was more in line (imo) then any scorecard that has Malignaggi ahead. Please go rewatch that fight and alert me when Malignaggi lands a significant fight EVER. When you're not powerful, you're not ACCURATE (which hasn't been talked about at all) and you're not slick defensively, wtf are you? Paulie Malignaggi who could fight that same fight a million times and would get the nod 1 out of 10 times, the judges live were right just listen to the difference of sound in the punches. I had it 116-112 and scoring it any closer would require giving Malignaggi rounds where he did NOTHING offensively. I don't want a rematch.

I watched the fight this morning, so it's pretty fresh in my mind. I had it about the same as when I watched it live too. I have no idea how you scored it 8 rounds to 4 in favour of Diaz.

Malignaggi was able to do what he wanted more than what Diaz was able to do. Malignaggi was throwing 80-100 punches a round and though less accurate than Diaz was able to fight his own fight with his movement, sharp jab and quick combos. Malignaggi boxed the ears off Diaz down the stretch, though do I think the 12th went to Diaz. Malignaggi might have less power, but he dictated more of the rounds.

The judges were too busy listening to the will of the home crowd rather than trying to adjudicate a fair fight. The scorecards were way off.

[Spicoli]

Close fight and no robbery at all.118-110 was the only problem I believe.Two totally contrasting styles...pick your poison.One thing though is what is up with all of the ranting MMa ish interviews lately?Have some cooth.Paulie had a point but I'd rather listen to fingers running across a chalkboard.

[markb018]

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Schaefer responds to Paulie and Lou.

If Juan Diaz feels he won the fight then he doesn't need to rematch, but Juan's mom knew who won the fight that night.

For people to not give Paulie that fight because he didn't land the harder shots I feel is ridiculous. Paulie made that fight his fight with ring generalship and completely outboxed Diaz. The fans made it seem like Juan was landing far more than he did. If people are basing it off harder shots which Diaz did throw no matter how few and far between they were, Paulie would have no victories, he just isn't a powerful puncher.

[JazMerkin]

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Schaefer responds to Paulie and Lou.

If Juan Diaz feels he won the fight then he doesn't need to rematch, but Juan's mom knew who won the fight that night.

For people to not give Paulie that fight because he didn't land the harder shots I feel is ridiculous. Paulie made that fight his fight with ring generalship and completely outboxed Diaz. The fans made it seem like Juan was landing far more than he did. If people are basing it off harder shots which Diaz did throw no matter how few and far between they were, Paulie would have no victories, he just isn't a powerful puncher.

I think their reply is very reasonable considering Paulie's outburst. I had it 115-113 Malignaggi, but I truthfully couldn't argue with someone who had it for Diaz 115-113 or 116-112, as there were A LOT of close rounds, & I scored more of these to Malignaggi because stylistically I thought he was doing better, but it was a close fight. NO WAY was that a robbery.

[BoomBoom]

First off, Diaz im sure feels he won the fight and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. He should feel that way. Secondly, why should he give him a rematch? Just cause it was a close fight? Controversial fights are a a part of boxing. They happen every week, and for most there are not rematches. You take it for what it is and more on. Malignaggi didnt have a rematch with Ndougjo, Ndougjo never had one with Castilllo, Castillo never had one with Casamayor, Casa never did with Santa Cruz...I could do this all day. Paulie has to worry about Paulie, not Juan Diaz.

[Hunter]

I thought Malignaggi won the fight but I really dont care to see a rematch....maybe it was paulie's prior fights that soured me but i just dont like to watch him much.......

[ElTerribleMorales]

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

LOL. Sorry for including Pac in this thread. I could not start a thread about it so with the spur of the moment I just have to ask about it.

David Diaz was a reasonable fight for Pac as he was the man who beat Erik Morales though I personally see that fight as a robbery on Erik's legacy.

Another question that has been in my mind is, how long would Juan last against Pac.

Regarding my question on Hatton vs Diaz, I'm wondering how would Diaz fare against Hatton given that Hatton handled Malignaggi easily.Of course styles make fight but given HAtton and Diaz' ability, styles won't really be a big factor here.

Hatton is pretty much shot, so i'd actually favor Diaz to pull a decision, unless it's in Manchester, and using your logic, Manny shouldn't want any of Mayweather seeing how bad he struggled with Marquez and how easily Floyd played with him

[brucelee]

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

LOL. Sorry for including Pac in this thread. I could not start a thread about it so with the spur of the moment I just have to ask about it.

David Diaz was a reasonable fight for Pac as he was the man who beat Erik Morales though I personally see that fight as a robbery on Erik's legacy.

Another question that has been in my mind is, how long would Juan last against Pac.

Regarding my question on Hatton vs Diaz, I'm wondering how would Diaz fare against Hatton given that Hatton handled Malignaggi easily.Of course styles make fight but given HAtton and Diaz' ability, styles won't really be a big factor here.

Hatton is pretty much shot, so i'd actually favor Diaz to pull a decision, unless it's in Manchester, and using your logic, Manny shouldn't want any of Mayweather seeing how bad he struggled with Marquez and how easily Floyd played with him

There you go again. It's like vice-versa. MAyweather won't want Pac considering how PAc demolished HAtton easily and how MAyweather struggled with HAtton's style in the earlier rounds. This is boxing and anything can happen here considering that Pac and Mayweather are the best in boxing.

Floyd koed MArquez only once while Pac have done it thrice in their first fight. Clearly, the fight can be argued as a matter of style. Pac vs Mayweather is not comparable to Marquez vs Mayweather because Pac is definitely faster and stronger than MArquez.

If there's someone who has the highest chance right now of knocking Mayweather, it's definitely Pac, IMO.

Pac's fight against Cotto will be a test of his ability against Mayweather. If he KO's Cotto, then there is no doubt in my mind that he would be able to KO Mayweather. If he KOs Cotto under 6 rounds as predicted by Roach, Mayweather will go down under 9 unless he will run and run around Pac like what Barrera did in his second fight against Pac. By that time, MAyweather's courage will be tested and this is the reason why this fight is very exciting.

[ElTerribleMorales]

LOL. Sorry for including Pac in this thread. I could not start a thread about it so with the spur of the moment I just have to ask about it.

David Diaz was a reasonable fight for Pac as he was the man who beat Erik Morales though I personally see that fight as a robbery on Erik's legacy.

Another question that has been in my mind is, how long would Juan last against Pac.

Regarding my question on Hatton vs Diaz, I'm wondering how would Diaz fare against Hatton given that Hatton handled Malignaggi easily.Of course styles make fight but given HAtton and Diaz' ability, styles won't really be a big factor here.

Hatton is pretty much shot, so i'd actually favor Diaz to pull a decision, unless it's in Manchester, and using your logic, Manny shouldn't want any of Mayweather seeing how bad he struggled with Marquez and how easily Floyd played with him

There you go again. It's like vice-versa. MAyweather won't want Pac considering how PAc demolished HAtton easily and how MAyweather struggled with HAtton's style in the earlier rounds. This is boxing and anything can happen here considering that Pac and Mayweather are the best in boxing.

Floyd koed MArquez only once while Pac have done it thrice in their first fight. Clearly, the fight can be argued as a matter of style. Pac vs Mayweather is not comparable to Marquez vs Mayweather because Pac is definitely faster and stronger than MArquez.

If there's someone who has the highest chance right now of knocking Mayweather, it's definitely Pac, IMO.

Pac's fight against Cotto will be a test of his ability against Mayweather. If he KO's Cotto, then there is no doubt in my mind that he would be able to KO Mayweather. If he KOs Cotto under 6 rounds as predicted by Roach, Mayweather will go down under 9 unless he will run and run around Pac like what Barrera did in his second fight against Pac. By that time, MAyweather's courage will be tested and this is the reason why this fight is very exciting.

no sorry Mayweather nor Pacquiao Ko'd Marquez, they knocked him down, big difference, learn son, learn

[holmcall]

Ah, now I know why he wants to become a lawyer.

[brucelee]

Hatton is pretty much shot, so i'd actually favor Diaz to pull a decision, unless it's in Manchester, and using your logic, Manny shouldn't want any of Mayweather seeing how bad he struggled with Marquez and how easily Floyd played with him

There you go again. It's like vice-versa. MAyweather won't want Pac considering how PAc demolished HAtton easily and how MAyweather struggled with HAtton's style in the earlier rounds. This is boxing and anything can happen here considering that Pac and Mayweather are the best in boxing.

Floyd koed MArquez only once while Pac have done it thrice in their first fight. Clearly, the fight can be argued as a matter of style. Pac vs Mayweather is not comparable to Marquez vs Mayweather because Pac is definitely faster and stronger than MArquez.

If there's someone who has the highest chance right now of knocking Mayweather, it's definitely Pac, IMO.

Pac's fight against Cotto will be a test of his ability against Mayweather. If he KO's Cotto, then there is no doubt in my mind that he would be able to KO Mayweather. If he KOs Cotto under 6 rounds as predicted by Roach, Mayweather will go down under 9 unless he will run and run around Pac like what Barrera did in his second fight against Pac. By that time, MAyweather's courage will be tested and this is the reason why this fight is very exciting.

no sorry Mayweather nor Pacquiao Ko'd Marquez, they knocked him down, big difference, learn son, learn

LOL. wrong choice of word and i stand corrected. Thank you.

I'm too old to be your son and with the way you post here, I'm thinking that you could be one of my grandsons.

[ElTerribleMorales]

There you go again. It's like vice-versa. MAyweather won't want Pac considering how PAc demolished HAtton easily and how MAyweather struggled with HAtton's style in the earlier rounds. This is boxing and anything can happen here considering that Pac and Mayweather are the best in boxing.

Floyd koed MArquez only once while Pac have done it thrice in their first fight. Clearly, the fight can be argued as a matter of style. Pac vs Mayweather is not comparable to Marquez vs Mayweather because Pac is definitely faster and stronger than MArquez.

If there's someone who has the highest chance right now of knocking Mayweather, it's definitely Pac, IMO.

Pac's fight against Cotto will be a test of his ability against Mayweather. If he KO's Cotto, then there is no doubt in my mind that he would be able to KO Mayweather. If he KOs Cotto under 6 rounds as predicted by Roach, Mayweather will go down under 9 unless he will run and run around Pac like what Barrera did in his second fight against Pac. By that time, MAyweather's courage will be tested and this is the reason why this fight is very exciting.

no sorry Mayweather nor Pacquiao Ko'd Marquez, they knocked him down, big difference, learn son, learn

LOL. wrong choice of word and i stand corrected. Thank you.

I'm too old to be your son and with the way you post here, I'm thinking that you could be one of my grandsons.

must be a pretty old guy then, and i'm impressed that in your elderly years you're able to even use a computer lol shit to be my grandpa you gotta be goin on 80