Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

[Gandalf]

Damn Miles, robbery? WTF? NO, that was no robbery in fact the 117-110 scorecard was more in line (imo) then any scorecard that has Malignaggi ahead. Please go rewatch that fight and alert me when Malignaggi lands a significant fight EVER. When you're not powerful, you're not ACCURATE (which hasn't been talked about at all) and you're not slick defensively, wtf are you? Paulie Malignaggi who could fight that same fight a million times and would get the nod 1 out of 10 times, the judges live were right just listen to the difference of sound in the punches. I had it 116-112 and scoring it any closer would require giving Malignaggi rounds where he did NOTHING offensively. I don't want a rematch.

I watched the fight this morning, so it's pretty fresh in my mind. I had it about the same as when I watched it live too. I have no idea how you scored it 8 rounds to 4 in favour of Diaz.

Malignaggi was able to do what he wanted more than what Diaz was able to do. Malignaggi was throwing 80-100 punches a round and though less accurate than Diaz was able to fight his own fight with his movement, sharp jab and quick combos. Malignaggi boxed the ears off Diaz down the stretch, though do I think the 12th went to Diaz. Malignaggi might have less power, but he dictated more of the rounds.

The judges were too busy listening to the will of the home crowd rather than trying to adjudicate a fair fight. The scorecards were way off.

[Spicoli]

Close fight and no robbery at all.118-110 was the only problem I believe.Two totally contrasting styles...pick your poison.One thing though is what is up with all of the ranting MMa ish interviews lately?Have some cooth.Paulie had a point but I'd rather listen to fingers running across a chalkboard.

[markb018]

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Schaefer responds to Paulie and Lou.

If Juan Diaz feels he won the fight then he doesn't need to rematch, but Juan's mom knew who won the fight that night.

For people to not give Paulie that fight because he didn't land the harder shots I feel is ridiculous. Paulie made that fight his fight with ring generalship and completely outboxed Diaz. The fans made it seem like Juan was landing far more than he did. If people are basing it off harder shots which Diaz did throw no matter how few and far between they were, Paulie would have no victories, he just isn't a powerful puncher.

[JazMerkin]

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Schaefer responds to Paulie and Lou.

If Juan Diaz feels he won the fight then he doesn't need to rematch, but Juan's mom knew who won the fight that night.

For people to not give Paulie that fight because he didn't land the harder shots I feel is ridiculous. Paulie made that fight his fight with ring generalship and completely outboxed Diaz. The fans made it seem like Juan was landing far more than he did. If people are basing it off harder shots which Diaz did throw no matter how few and far between they were, Paulie would have no victories, he just isn't a powerful puncher.

I think their reply is very reasonable considering Paulie's outburst. I had it 115-113 Malignaggi, but I truthfully couldn't argue with someone who had it for Diaz 115-113 or 116-112, as there were A LOT of close rounds, & I scored more of these to Malignaggi because stylistically I thought he was doing better, but it was a close fight. NO WAY was that a robbery.

[markb018]

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Schaefer responds to Paulie and Lou.

If Juan Diaz feels he won the fight then he doesn't need to rematch, but Juan's mom knew who won the fight that night.

For people to not give Paulie that fight because he didn't land the harder shots I feel is ridiculous. Paulie made that fight his fight with ring generalship and completely outboxed Diaz. The fans made it seem like Juan was landing far more than he did. If people are basing it off harder shots which Diaz did throw no matter how few and far between they were, Paulie would have no victories, he just isn't a powerful puncher.

I think their reply is very reasonable considering Paulie's outburst. I had it 115-113 Malignaggi, but I truthfully couldn't argue with someone who had it for Diaz 115-113 or 116-112, as there were A LOT of close rounds, & I scored more of these to Malignaggi because stylistically I thought he was doing better, but it was a close fight. NO WAY was that a robbery.

I wouldn't say it was a robbery completely but when your not getting a fair shake from the moment you step foot in the ring in this case before whats the point of fighting? Schaefer has to be reasonable during all this cause there is an ugly cloud surrounding all this.

[OumaFan]

Its not even about whether Paulie landed harder shots to me, he just didn't land all that much in general.

LOL at going to fight in New York for equal money or close to that. Paulie should just move on, this loss has helped him immensely, that and he should demand Max commentates all his fights, its Lampley/Oscarish man love.

[markb018]

Its not even about whether Paulie landed harder shots to me, he just didn't land all that much in general.

Sorry my man, I completely disagree with you there. Paulie totally outclassed Juan imo. Guess I will have to rewatch this at some point tonight, watched a few times but to say Paulie wasn't landing anything?

[OumaFan]

Outclassed?

Then you must think it was a robbery no? If he outclassed him.

He landed a lot on arms and gloves. His best work was done keeping Diaz at a distance, he didn't land all that much really. Neither did Juan but I thought he was more effective overall. I don't care if people scored it for Paulie, it was a case of what do you favor, but "robbery" and "totally outclassed" is la la land IMO.

[Spicoli]

Its not even about whether Paulie landed harder shots to me, he just didn't land all that much in general.

LOL at going to fight in New York for equal money or close to that. Paulie should just move on, this loss has helped him immensely, that and he should demand Max commentates all his fights, its Lampley/Oscarish man love.

Had not even realized the punch stats until the other night.I take them with a grain of salt but Diaz was credited with more power shots and total punches landed,and from what I remember was the one who wobbled Paulie.

[OumaFan]

Malignaggi threw a lot of jabs that landed on Diaz' gloves, meh I just can't get too worked up about that. The fight was reasonably close because of Paulie's defense, not his offense.

At least more people agree with me on Diaz winning this fight than they do with Shane Mosley beating ODLH in the second fight. I'm kind of on an island there But in a way I think the fights had some similarities, maybe not that many but some. One guy gets slobbered on by the HBO crew every time he does anything even though most of the time he's not really landing and while the other guy doesn't land that much either he landed the cleaner more effective punches. Although Mosley hurt ODLH more than Diaz hurt Malignaggi.

[BoomBoom]

First off, Diaz im sure feels he won the fight and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. He should feel that way. Secondly, why should he give him a rematch? Just cause it was a close fight? Controversial fights are a a part of boxing. They happen every week, and for most there are not rematches. You take it for what it is and more on. Malignaggi didnt have a rematch with Ndougjo, Ndougjo never had one with Castilllo, Castillo never had one with Casamayor, Casa never did with Santa Cruz...I could do this all day. Paulie has to worry about Paulie, not Juan Diaz.

[Hunter]

I thought Malignaggi won the fight but I really dont care to see a rematch....maybe it was paulie's prior fights that soured me but i just dont like to watch him much.......