Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
Master, here are a few heavyweights that would bother Ali or even beat him: Larry Holmes, Riddick Bowe, Lennox Lewis, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko....and Evander Holyfield. I'm using what everyone always uses on Rocky Marciano...those guys are bigger than Ali(bar Evander), they hit harder than Ali, they are close in athletic ability, and they are stronger than Ali. If they wouldn't have beaten him they would surely have given him a hard fight.

I think Prime Ali-Prime Holyfield would be a war! Evander had Joe Frazier's work ethic, but was bigger and could box a bit.

ElTerribleMorales, you're shittin me....Sonny Liston is famous for beating Floyd Patterson twice (formerly of 175) and getting absolutely destroyed twice by Ali...who could Liston beat today

Just because your division is weak doesn't mean you're a bad champion or a poor champion, see Larry Holmes, Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis...those guys would be great in any era (of course you have to realize Rocky wouldn't be a heavyweight these days).
i'd honestly say that Holmes level of competition was better than todays