Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
rjjtszyu, Ali was bigger than Foreman AND George didn't box back in those days. I specifically selected the Klitschko's because they use their height and reach and are good technically sound fighters. It is my belief that Ali had more trouble with guys who could box a bit...the Klitschko's can box but they also have legit KO power which would have to bother Ali, I'm not saying they would always win but they would always do well.

Holmes' era was ok, but he had the same problem that the Klitschko's currently have. The competition they have right now are young and inexperienced.

I just think Evander Holyfield is the closest thing we could get to Joe Frazier in terms of his will to win.
Well I agree with you on Holyfield but for a start, Foreman was Bigger than Ali, he was 1/2 inch taller had a 82" inch reach which is 2" more than Ali (and both Klits for that matter) and when they fought he weighed in 4 lbs heavier than Ali but had drained to quite a light weight for Foreman to supposedly help his speed with Ali and his next fight against Ron Lyle (one of the greatest HW fights of all time IMO) he weighed in 6 lbs heavier than he did against Ali. Also he was only 25 so he had not finished growing by any means, whereas when Ali was 25 he weighed a full 10lbs+ less than Foreman, so how was Ali bigger?

Also Foreman didn't box in those days? Why don't you go and watch some of Foremans other fights, he used to work his jab very, very well and set up the bombs with it, kind of like in the way Wlad does but he made it a lot more exciting because he wasn't as safety first as Wlad is these days. He just couldn't figure out Ali's style but not many could, as it changed from fight to fight. A lot of people seem to have this warped idea that Foreman was just a slugger. Far from it, he was a very effective boxer who set everything up behind a solid jab, the thing was nothing went far because what he did follow it up with was so hard it seemed to get rid of his opponent.