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    Default Re: Ward Stops Kessler!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyIncognito76 View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvWLoWdXJao

    The headbutt that leads to the stoppage is replayed at 4:43 but you see an earlier headbutt at the beginning of the clip, and despite what the commentators say, that looks deliberate as well. It's certainly an unnatural head movement!
    That first one on the clip didn't look deliberate to me at all, unless you think Ward has an eye in his ear or some kind of bat sonar.

    The second one was bad. I admit that. I would like to see both Dirrell and Ward clinch a whole lot less, because I think their speed makes it unnecessary. I know both guys have been rocked pretty hard prior to the tournament, so that may play a factor. Not trying to justify it, just trying to understand it.
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    agree with killersheep, 1st looked accidental and the 2nd looked pretty intentional, but seriously don't see what the uproar is all about, when Froch hit Dirrell in the back of the head for 12 rounds and did 2 intentional cheap shots at the break without even getting a warning, yet some of the guys who had him "doing more" to get the win are here bitching about the Ward/Kessler fight, seems some Brits are just upset that although the other two US fighters lost, the last American left picked up the biggest win in the tourney

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    agree with killersheep, 1st looked accidental and the 2nd looked pretty intentional, but seriously don't see what the uproar is all about, when Froch hit Dirrell in the back of the head for 12 rounds and did 2 intentional cheap shots at the break without even getting a warning, yet some of the guys who had him "doing more" to get the win are here bitching about the Ward/Kessler fight, seems some Brits are just upset that although the other two US fighters lost, the last American left picked up the biggest win in the tourney

    I think this is silly. Britain and Denmark are two completely different countrys with no ties to one another whatsoever. It's like some one from Britain saying your upset because a fighter from Brazil was Robbed.

    It amazing how small the knowledge of the continent Europe is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    agree with killersheep, 1st looked accidental and the 2nd looked pretty intentional, but seriously don't see what the uproar is all about, when Froch hit Dirrell in the back of the head for 12 rounds and did 2 intentional cheap shots at the break without even getting a warning, yet some of the guys who had him "doing more" to get the win are here bitching about the Ward/Kessler fight, seems some Brits are just upset that although the other two US fighters lost, the last American left picked up the biggest win in the tourney

    I think this is silly. Britain and Denmark are two completely different countrys with no ties to one another whatsoever. It's like some one from Britain saying your upset because a fighter from Brazil was Robbed.

    It amazing how small the knowledge of the continent Europe is.

    I thinks its a fair point actually. While yes the two countries don't have any real ties. And most people are lacking the knowledge in the area of the whereabouts of certain European countries.

    When It comes to boxing it mostly seems to be just chalked up as USA v Europe whenever fighter from each continent meet. Therefore guys from Denmark, Germany, Ukraine, Ireland, Monaco, and Britain are all lumped together. Sort of like the Unified Team from the '92 Olympics even though they were comprised of former Soviet Republics. We just called them "The Russians". In boxing, most Americans just look at everyone from Europe as "Brits".
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    agree with killersheep, 1st looked accidental and the 2nd looked pretty intentional, but seriously don't see what the uproar is all about, when Froch hit Dirrell in the back of the head for 12 rounds and did 2 intentional cheap shots at the break without even getting a warning, yet some of the guys who had him "doing more" to get the win are here bitching about the Ward/Kessler fight, seems some Brits are just upset that although the other two US fighters lost, the last American left picked up the biggest win in the tourney

    I think this is silly. Britain and Denmark are two completely different countrys with no ties to one another whatsoever. It's like some one from Britain saying your upset because a fighter from Brazil was Robbed.

    It amazing how small the knowledge of the continent Europe is.

    I thinks its a fair point actually. While yes the two countries don't have any real ties. And most people are lacking the knowledge in the area of the whereabouts of certain European countries.

    When It comes to boxing it mostly seems to be just chalked up as USA v Europe whenever fighter from each continent meet. Therefore guys from Denmark, Germany, Ukraine, Ireland, Monaco, and Britain are all lumped together. Sort of like the Unified Team from the '92 Olympics even though they were comprised of former Soviet Republics. We just called them "The Russians". In boxing, most Americans just look at everyone from Europe as "Brits".
    lol ok I wouldn't go that far. Personally, I was never really taught geography in school thus I don't really know it, but we know the difference between England and Germany even if we can't all separate them on a map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    agree with killersheep, 1st looked accidental and the 2nd looked pretty intentional, but seriously don't see what the uproar is all about, when Froch hit Dirrell in the back of the head for 12 rounds and did 2 intentional cheap shots at the break without even getting a warning, yet some of the guys who had him "doing more" to get the win are here bitching about the Ward/Kessler fight, seems some Brits are just upset that although the other two US fighters lost, the last American left picked up the biggest win in the tourney

    I think this is silly. Britain and Denmark are two completely different countrys with no ties to one another whatsoever. It's like some one from Britain saying your upset because a fighter from Brazil was Robbed.

    It amazing how small the knowledge of the continent Europe is.

    I thinks its a fair point actually. While yes the two countries don't have any real ties. And most people are lacking the knowledge in the area of the whereabouts of certain European countries.

    When It comes to boxing it mostly seems to be just chalked up as USA v Europe whenever fighter from each continent meet. Therefore guys from Denmark, Germany, Ukraine, Ireland, Monaco, and Britain are all lumped together. Sort of like the Unified Team from the '92 Olympics even though they were comprised of former Soviet Republics. We just called them "The Russians". In boxing, most Americans just look at everyone from Europe as "Brits".


    You guys in America don't get behind your fellow American's though, right? Depends on what town/desert/road they live in?

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    "In boxing, most Americans just look at everyone from Europe as "Brits".
    What?

    Though on the Brits being pissed that the last American won I TOTALLY agree.

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    Kessler is 100% a Dane now he's lost. No ties to Britain whatsoever.

    Frochy. Now there's a true Englishman. Knows how to foul when he's getting fucked. Smart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post


    I think this is silly. Britain and Denmark are two completely different countrys with no ties to one another whatsoever. It's like some one from Britain saying your upset because a fighter from Brazil was Robbed.

    It amazing how small the knowledge of the continent Europe is.

    I thinks its a fair point actually. While yes the two countries don't have any real ties. And most people are lacking the knowledge in the area of the whereabouts of certain European countries.

    When It comes to boxing it mostly seems to be just chalked up as USA v Europe whenever fighter from each continent meet. Therefore guys from Denmark, Germany, Ukraine, Ireland, Monaco, and Britain are all lumped together. Sort of like the Unified Team from the '92 Olympics even though they were comprised of former Soviet Republics. We just called them "The Russians". In boxing, most Americans just look at everyone from Europe as "Brits".


    You guys in America don't get behind your fellow American's though, right? Depends on what town/desert/road they live in?

    That's what amat and TrainerMonkey tell me anyway?
    Yep, we're mentally fucked as whole in America. It's funny when two American fighters fight, then home state or city get behind their guy.

    It's funny when I hear Mayweather say of Marquez "He got a whole country behind him" implying that he himself doesn't have citizenship to any country that would back him. In America it's like "Yeah the minorities are American when they're fighting non Americans so its okay to root for them, but when it comes to American vs American then there are a bunch of stupid little quirks that one uses to determine who one will back. Instead of just watching two guys fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    agree with killersheep, 1st looked accidental and the 2nd looked pretty intentional, but seriously don't see what the uproar is all about, when Froch hit Dirrell in the back of the head for 12 rounds and did 2 intentional cheap shots at the break without even getting a warning, yet some of the guys who had him "doing more" to get the win are here bitching about the Ward/Kessler fight, seems some Brits are just upset that although the other two US fighters lost, the last American left picked up the biggest win in the tourney

    I think this is silly. Britain and Denmark are two completely different countrys with no ties to one another whatsoever. It's like some one from Britain saying your upset because a fighter from Brazil was Robbed.

    It amazing how small the knowledge of the continent Europe is.
    i know Britain and Denmark are 2 completely different countries, but they both are European countries and i only was referring to the Brits being upset cause well lets face it about 60% of the people on here are Brits, and from what i've seen most of the ones bitching and moaning about Ward are the same ones that were praising Froch

    like Fenster said when Abraham and Froch won, only one American was left, and he made a huge splash last night, one questions Fenster........































    DOES IT STING TO KNOW THAT AN AMERICAN FIGHTER HAS THE BIGGEST, AND THE MOST MEANINGFUL WIN IN THE TOURNEY? HAHAHAHAHA

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    Kessler's mum is English by the way.

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    OK, I watched it on YouTube, and I don't think the reffing was so biased or that Ward fought all that dirty. The ref didn't warn Ward for holding, because Kessler was holding just as much, and Ward was the only one doing any work on the inside. It would have been a lot different if Kessler was trying to get in to throw punches, and Ward was tying him up to stop him and get back out, but Kessler barely threw any at all on the inside.

    The last headbutt was the only on that looked like it was intentional, but even that one could have been some awkward follow through after missing a punch.

    I really don't see how you can say Ward fought a negative style, either. He was moving back for much of the fight, but threw and landed a lot of punches. He often pressed the action, even sometimes with an abandon that Kessler wasn't able to take advantage of.

    The thing that bothers me about Ward is the whole fighting for the Lord BS. I guess Jesus just loves him more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myk_Myk View Post
    OK, I watched it on YouTube, and I don't think the reffing was so biased or that Ward fought all that dirty. The ref didn't warn Ward for holding, because Kessler was holding just as much, and Ward was the only one doing any work on the inside. It would have been a lot different if Kessler was trying to get in to throw punches, and Ward was tying him up to stop him and get back out, but Kessler barely threw any at all on the inside.

    The last headbutt was the only on that looked like it was intentional, but even that one could have been some awkward follow through after missing a punch.

    I really don't see how you can say Ward fought a negative style, either. He was moving back for much of the fight, but threw and landed a lot of punches. He often pressed the action, even sometimes with an abandon that Kessler wasn't able to take advantage of.

    The thing that bothers me about Ward is the whole fighting for the Lord BS. I guess Jesus just loves him more?
    This is right on. All around.

    I actually like Ward as a fighter and I love the fact that he pisses off so many people but seriously could you ask him a question (any question) and not get a monologue on God? I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    agree with killersheep, 1st looked accidental and the 2nd looked pretty intentional, but seriously don't see what the uproar is all about, when Froch hit Dirrell in the back of the head for 12 rounds and did 2 intentional cheap shots at the break without even getting a warning, yet some of the guys who had him "doing more" to get the win are here bitching about the Ward/Kessler fight, seems some Brits are just upset that although the other two US fighters lost, the last American left picked up the biggest win in the tourney

    I think this is silly. Britain and Denmark are two completely different countrys with no ties to one another whatsoever. It's like some one from Britain saying your upset because a fighter from Brazil was Robbed.

    It amazing how small the knowledge of the continent Europe is.
    i know Britain and Denmark are 2 completely different countries, but they both are European countries and i only was referring to the Brits being upset cause well lets face it about 60% of the people on here are Brits, and from what i've seen most of the ones bitching and moaning about Ward are the same ones that were praising Froch

    like Fenster said when Abraham and Froch won, only one American was left, and he made a huge splash last night, one questions Fenster........

    DOES IT STING TO KNOW THAT AN AMERICAN FIGHTER HAS THE BIGGEST, AND THE MOST MEANINGFUL WIN IN THE TOURNEY? HAHAHAHAHA
    Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

    Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

    So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

    1. Abraham
    2. Frochy
    3. Jesus
    4. Dirrell
    5. Kessler
    6. Taylor

    The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post


    I think this is silly. Britain and Denmark are two completely different countrys with no ties to one another whatsoever. It's like some one from Britain saying your upset because a fighter from Brazil was Robbed.

    It amazing how small the knowledge of the continent Europe is.
    i know Britain and Denmark are 2 completely different countries, but they both are European countries and i only was referring to the Brits being upset cause well lets face it about 60% of the people on here are Brits, and from what i've seen most of the ones bitching and moaning about Ward are the same ones that were praising Froch

    like Fenster said when Abraham and Froch won, only one American was left, and he made a huge splash last night, one questions Fenster........

    DOES IT STING TO KNOW THAT AN AMERICAN FIGHTER HAS THE BIGGEST, AND THE MOST MEANINGFUL WIN IN THE TOURNEY? HAHAHAHAHA
    Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

    Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

    So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

    1. Abraham
    2. Frochy
    3. Jesus
    4. Dirrell
    5. Kessler
    6. Taylor

    The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.
    he`s actually armenian

    id have the current rankings for the 6 at....

    1.Abraham
    2.Froch
    3.Ward
    4.Kessler
    5.Dirrell
    6.Taylor
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