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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe haters lets do some irrational hating

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I never cared much for Calzaghe or his horrible trainer/father....but Ricky Hatton should have followed in Joe's career path. Go from Kostya Tszyu to Sharmba Mitchell to Erik Morales to Marco Antonio Barerra to a couple more old fuckers at 147 and then retire undefeated.

    If Ottke, Calzaghe, or Michalczweski had the stones to come to the US to fight RJJ in the late 90's early 2000's then they would have had the shit beaten right out of them and hell even OLD Roy and OLD Hopkins gave a PRIME Joe Calzaghe trouble.

    It must be a hollow feeling being "the best" just because you never dared to take a live challenge....oh well, I'm sure this will just go down as me hating on the Brits but like I give a fuck

    Calzaghe was extremely talented but he never tested himself....I don't mean to seem 100% one sided but it kind of pisses me off when he had the chance to fight RJJ and Hopkins at various points in his career and never did it until late and RJJ and Hopkins piss me off because they had chances to take on bigger fish but waited too long too, although Roy did fight better competition than Hopkins and Hopkins fought better competition than Calzaghe.
    Lyle, you know Calzaghe was not exactly in his prime when he fought Jones and Hopkins. You know enough about boxing and Calzaghe to know that. You are making a populist statement in the hope its convinces a few more people. But i don't think you yourself believe the 36 year old Calzaghe that took on them two was 'prime'.
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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe haters lets do some irrational hating

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I never cared much for Calzaghe or his horrible trainer/father....but Ricky Hatton should have followed in Joe's career path. Go from Kostya Tszyu to Sharmba Mitchell to Erik Morales to Marco Antonio Barerra to a couple more old fuckers at 147 and then retire undefeated.

    If Ottke, Calzaghe, or Michalczweski had the stones to come to the US to fight RJJ in the late 90's early 2000's then they would have had the shit beaten right out of them and hell even OLD Roy and OLD Hopkins gave a PRIME Joe Calzaghe trouble.

    It must be a hollow feeling being "the best" just because you never dared to take a live challenge....oh well, I'm sure this will just go down as me hating on the Brits but like I give a fuck

    Calzaghe was extremely talented but he never tested himself....I don't mean to seem 100% one sided but it kind of pisses me off when he had the chance to fight RJJ and Hopkins at various points in his career and never did it until late and RJJ and Hopkins piss me off because they had chances to take on bigger fish but waited too long too, although Roy did fight better competition than Hopkins and Hopkins fought better competition than Calzaghe.
    Lyle, you know Calzaghe was not exactly in his prime when he fought Jones and Hopkins. You know enough about boxing and Calzaghe to know that. You are making a populist statement in the hope its convinces a few more people. But i don't think you yourself believe the 36 year old Calzaghe that took on them two was 'prime'.
    He was far closer to his prime than Jones or Hopkins tho.

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe haters lets do some irrational hating

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I never cared much for Calzaghe or his horrible trainer/father....but Ricky Hatton should have followed in Joe's career path. Go from Kostya Tszyu to Sharmba Mitchell to Erik Morales to Marco Antonio Barerra to a couple more old fuckers at 147 and then retire undefeated.

    If Ottke, Calzaghe, or Michalczweski had the stones to come to the US to fight RJJ in the late 90's early 2000's then they would have had the shit beaten right out of them and hell even OLD Roy and OLD Hopkins gave a PRIME Joe Calzaghe trouble.

    It must be a hollow feeling being "the best" just because you never dared to take a live challenge....oh well, I'm sure this will just go down as me hating on the Brits but like I give a fuck

    Calzaghe was extremely talented but he never tested himself....I don't mean to seem 100% one sided but it kind of pisses me off when he had the chance to fight RJJ and Hopkins at various points in his career and never did it until late and RJJ and Hopkins piss me off because they had chances to take on bigger fish but waited too long too, although Roy did fight better competition than Hopkins and Hopkins fought better competition than Calzaghe.
    Lyle, you know Calzaghe was not exactly in his prime when he fought Jones and Hopkins. You know enough about boxing and Calzaghe to know that. You are making a populist statement in the hope its convinces a few more people. But i don't think you yourself believe the 36 year old Calzaghe that took on them two was 'prime'.
    He was far closer to his prime than Jones or Hopkins tho.
    Yes its a fartial argument , " who was more shot at that point " , fact is Calzaghe never fought any of his rivals for what ever reason , and waited until Jones etc had been beaten before.
    Lacy a bum , Kessler one dimentional , both of those are proven facts.

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe haters lets do some irrational hating

    Right us haters always produce facts of why Calzaghe just weren't that good as in opponents he faced and opponents he didn't face and how meaningless most of his title defences were so come on Calzaghe fans give us the facts of why he was so good.

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe haters lets do some irrational hating

    He was obviously a talented fighter. Jeff Lacy is the killer. That was a huge fight, a giant fight that a huge number of people (myself included) thought Calzaghe would win and he did. I think he wasted his career up to that point fighting people we didn't care about. Calzaghe to me was always kind of like Felix Sturm is now except undefeated of course. I had only seen a couple of his fights broadcast by Showtime, the rest I had to download online when I began getting into boxing a little more. So undefeated is great, but there's a reason he never entered the P4P rankings until after the Lacy win. Discredit that win if you may, taking a fighters 0 is no small feat, it shouldn't be to discredited if they lose later. Especially Kessler, I never thought he would fight Kessler and actually gained a fair bit of respect for him for fighting, and beating Kessler. I did think he would win though.

    Against Hopkins, showed he was a really good fighter with his own unique skillset and matched up pretty well versus an ATG. I thought he lost

    Against Jones, like OumaFan said, easiest fight to predict ever. I did go apeshit when he got floored though but like 30 seconds later I realized it wasn't going to matter.

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    I will say my dislike for Calzaghe spiked to record highs before the Hopkins fight when he and his even more annoying dad kept going on about him punching 9 times in a second, I think Sal might have made a video on that

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe haters lets do some irrational hating

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULYc80ml7Sc

    lmfao funniest shit of all time, how can anyone be a fan of that guy?

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe haters lets do some irrational hating

    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Right us haters always produce facts of why Calzaghe just weren't that good as in opponents he faced and opponents he didn't face and how meaningless most of his title defences were so come on Calzaghe fans give us the facts of why he was so good.
    Come on then i'll entertain you. Here's why your argument is complete crap...

    Lacy - unbeaten, no.2 Ring rated, IBF champion when Calzaghe slaughtered him. He was not the exposed guy you falsely claim him to be. Fact.

    Kessler - unbeaten, no.1 Ring rated, WBC/WBA champion when Calzaghe schooled him. He was not the guy with a loss to Andre Ward. Fact.

    Hopkins - P4P no.3, Linear/Ring lightheavyweight champion when Calzaghe beat him. Fact.

    Roy - past his pomp legend. Fact. Here's something interesting though, 36% of Saddo voters picked Jones to win - including a certain Mr Tysonbruno and Dark Lord Al. Fact.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...l-win-why.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Right us haters always produce facts of why Calzaghe just weren't that good as in opponents he faced and opponents he didn't face and how meaningless most of his title defences were so come on Calzaghe fans give us the facts of why he was so good.
    Come on then i'll entertain you. Here's why your argument is complete crap...

    Lacy - unbeaten, no.2 Ring rated, IBF champion when Calzaghe slaughtered him. He was not the exposed guy you falsely claim him to be. Fact.

    Kessler - unbeaten, no.1 Ring rated, WBC/WBA champion when Calzaghe schooled him. He was not the guy with a loss to Andre Ward. Fact.

    Hopkins - P4P no.3, Linear/Ring lightheavyweight champion when Calzaghe beat him. Fact.

    Roy - past his pomp legend. Fact. Here's something interesting though, 36% of Saddo voters picked Jones to win - including a certain Mr Tysonbruno and Dark Lord Al. Fact.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...l-win-why.html

    Haters.. I've shit em.
    wouldn't read to much in to that poll as i always go against Calzaghe

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe haters lets do some irrational hating

    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Right us haters always produce facts of why Calzaghe just weren't that good as in opponents he faced and opponents he didn't face and how meaningless most of his title defences were so come on Calzaghe fans give us the facts of why he was so good.
    Come on then i'll entertain you. Here's why your argument is complete crap...

    Lacy - unbeaten, no.2 Ring rated, IBF champion when Calzaghe slaughtered him. He was not the exposed guy you falsely claim him to be. Fact.

    Kessler - unbeaten, no.1 Ring rated, WBC/WBA champion when Calzaghe schooled him. He was not the guy with a loss to Andre Ward. Fact.

    Hopkins - P4P no.3, Linear/Ring lightheavyweight champion when Calzaghe beat him. Fact.

    Roy - past his pomp legend. Fact. Here's something interesting though, 36% of Saddo voters picked Jones to win - including a certain Mr Tysonbruno and Dark Lord Al. Fact.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...l-win-why.html

    Haters.. I've shit em.
    wouldn't read to much in to that poll as i always go against Calzaghe
    Exactly.

    Unfortunately for you Calzaghe always won though, so basically butt fucked you his whole career
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