Joe Calzaghe haters lets do some irrational hating

[BIG H]

I never cared much for Calzaghe or his horrible trainer/father....but Ricky Hatton should have followed in Joe's career path. Go from Kostya Tszyu to Sharmba Mitchell to Erik Morales to Marco Antonio Barerra to a couple more old fuckers at 147 and then retire undefeated.

If Ottke, Calzaghe, or Michalczweski had the stones to come to the US to fight RJJ in the late 90's early 2000's then they would have had the shit beaten right out of them and hell even OLD Roy and OLD Hopkins gave a PRIME Joe Calzaghe trouble.

It must be a hollow feeling being "the best" just because you never dared to take a live challenge....oh well, I'm sure this will just go down as me hating on the Brits but like I give a fuck


Calzaghe was extremely talented but he never tested himself....I don't mean to seem 100% one sided but it kind of pisses me off when he had the chance to fight RJJ and Hopkins at various points in his career and never did it until late and RJJ and Hopkins piss me off because they had chances to take on bigger fish but waited too long too, although Roy did fight better competition than Hopkins and Hopkins fought better competition than Calzaghe.

F**k me, he beat everyone put in front of him.
You keep saying he waited till Jones and hopkins were too old, Joe was only 3-4 years younger, all thats doing is making excuces for Roy and the like. Much like people do with muhummad ali late in his career, getting beaten by allcomers. If Roy jones and the other boys were too old, then they shouldn't of gotten in the ring.

NO EXCUSES!!!!!


big Joe is the man, undefeated man that is

Thats most peoples point! Yes, he did beat everyone put in front of him because he picked and chose his opponents. He pulled out of god knows how many fights that ive lost count. He never pulled out of fights against bums i noticed.

Name the fights he pulled out of? (That weren't due to damaged hands and subsequently rescheduled)

Name the fighters he ducked that were fighting at SMW during his reign!

His resume may not be great, but nor was the division

[Tysonbruno]

F**k me, he beat everyone put in front of him.
You keep saying he waited till Jones and hopkins were too old, Joe was only 3-4 years younger, all thats doing is making excuces for Roy and the like. Much like people do with muhummad ali late in his career, getting beaten by allcomers. If Roy jones and the other boys were too old, then they shouldn't of gotten in the ring.

NO EXCUSES!!!!!


big Joe is the man, undefeated man that is

Thats most peoples point! Yes, he did beat everyone put in front of him because he picked and chose his opponents. He pulled out of god knows how many fights that ive lost count. He never pulled out of fights against bums i noticed.

Name the fights he pulled out of? (That weren't due to damaged hands and subsequently rescheduled)

Name the fighters he ducked that were fighting at SMW during his reign!

His resume may not be great, but nor was the division

Antwun Echols Syd Vanderpool and Glenn Johnson and more Frank Warren said about 10

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Is that it

[TheBranMan]

Is that it

I could say the same thing in relation to the "living legend's" resume.

[Tysonbruno]

Is that it

Thing is these were risky fights at the time he didn't reshedule he fought someone else he pulled out on Johnson twice to the point Johnson thought he was just wasting his time and went on and fought someone else. He wanted Woods vs Johnson winner they had a war Woods won and Calzaghe didn't pursue it and Hobson and Warren both said they were happy for the fight to happen.

[BIG H]

Is that it

Thing is these were risky fights at the time he didn't reshedule he fought someone else he pulled out on Johnson twice to the point Johnson thought he was just wasting his time and went on and fought someone else. He wanted Woods vs Johnson winner they had a war Woods won and Calzaghe didn't pursue it and Hobson and Warren both said they were happy for the fight to happen.

It's laughable to think that Calzaghe would duck Tarver, Vanderpool, Woods or Johnson, yet fight Lacy (who at the time all the hindsight experts thought was the 2nd coming) Kessler & Hopkins (Yeh he was 43 bla bla bla, tell that to Pavlik)

[BIG H]

Are we seriously supposed top think that fighting Vanderpool or Jonshon (who had already lost about 9 fights) or Tarver would make any of you haters say Calzaghe had a better resume

[Tysonbruno]

BIG H stop banging the Lacy drum he had trouble with Omar Sheika and Vitali Tyspko he was never the 2nd coming in reality both Tarver and Johnson would have beaten him.

[porkypara]

Calzaghe refusing to go into Germany and rid the world of Sven Ottke is one of the most cowardice moves ever by a Boxer

So what does that make Roy Jones and Hopkins who refuse to fight outside of the states .( yes I know jones's last fight was in Oz)

[BIG H]

BIG H stop banging the Lacy drum he had trouble with Omar Sheika and Vitali Tyspko he was never the 2nd coming in reality both Tarver and Johnson would have beaten him.

So you tipped Calzaghe to win then?

'Had trouble' is a broad term. He was never in danger of losing prior to JC and the Tyspko fight was after JC and I think everybody surely agrees that Lacy (as crap as you think he was) is nowhere the same fighter post Calzaghe.

[Fenster]

Is that it

Thing is these were risky fights at the time he didn't reshedule he fought someone else he pulled out on Johnson twice to the point Johnson thought he was just wasting his time and went on and fought someone else. He wanted Woods vs Johnson winner they had a war Woods won and Calzaghe didn't pursue it and Hobson and Warren both said they were happy for the fight to happen.

That someone else was Roy Jones. Calzaghe getting injured was the GREATEST thing that ever happened to Johnson.

[BIG H]

I don't think Calzaghe's resume is the greatest ever by any means, but i certainly don't think he ducked anybody. The division was just poor. Check out B-Hop's 10 years at Middleweight if you want to see a sh1t resume

[ICB]

Is that it

I think he should of fought Antwun Echols though, considering he did fight the fighter Antwun Echols just beat in a wild slugfest aka Charles Brewer. But thats the thing i will agree with, he didn't really avoid anyone.

But then again who was there really worth avoiding ? he should of moved up years ago because he did say he did have a hard time making weight.

But as for the fighters he could of fought ?

Markus Beyer = Defeated Richie Woodhall flooring him 3 times, he had the WBC version of the title, Joe Calzaghe fights the loser Richie Woodhall, instead of Markus Beyer.

Glen Johnson = After he beat Eric Harding and Clinton Woods, would of been a good time to face him. Or when he beat Roy Jones Jr and Antonio Tarver.

Sven Ottke = I know people say well Sven Ottke wouldn't fight outside of Germany, but if Joe Calzaghe really was that worried about not getting fights, he should of just gone to Germany and beat Sven Ottke. And he would of beaten him whether it was in Germany or on the moon.

Dariusz Michalczweski = A great fight at Light Heavyweight, this could of happened at any time.

Anthony Mundine = I think this fight could of happened at some point, not really sure when though but surely it could of been made ?

Roy Jones Jr = At Light Heavyweight.

Antonio Tarver = At Light Heavyweight.

Eric Harding = After he had a good showing against Roy Jones Jr.

Fabrice Tiozzo = After he beat Silvio Branco or Dariusz Michalczweski.

Bruno Girard = After he beat Byron Mitchell or Lou Del Valle.

Im not saying he avoided any of these fighters, but he did miss out on some good fights which he could of made happen. If he would of took more risks.

[Fenster]

Tysonbruno has written off Lacy as bascially useless yet is now claiming Calzaghe was scared to fight Vanderpool - a Lacy KO victim

[Tysonbruno]

Tysonbruno has written off Lacy as bascially useless yet is now claiming Calzaghe was scared to fight Vanderpool - a Lacy KO victim

Yes years later im sure When calzaghe was going to fight Vanderpool it was before Hopkins fought him