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    Default Re: victor ortiz wins, but is he back?

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    his promoter bragged that he's the next big thing before the maidana fight then bam
    he wasn't ready for that fight, but even there he showed he has the tools to live up to what he's being billed to be, just isn't quite there yet and needs some work
    He was ready for the fight. No doubt about that. Looked at the success he was having. Problem was he had no idea how to deal with adversity.
    look at how many mistakes he was making, in defense, keeping his composure, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
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    his promoter bragged that he's the next big thing before the maidana fight then bam
    he wasn't ready for that fight, but even there he showed he has the tools to live up to what he's being billed to be, just isn't quite there yet and needs some work
    He was ready for the fight. No doubt about that. Looked at the success he was having. Problem was he had no idea how to deal with adversity.

    I'm not sure how much mental toughness can be taught tbh. I know having the right people round you can help but surely they can only work with what is there already. I know we're talking on a different scale but lots of people said it about Tyson, he boxed as a bully once someone (Hollyfield) had the skills to stand up to that it all crumbled....of course not everyone was aware of the extent of Tysons mental state but Hollyfield has always seemed to have the mental toughness to get him through.

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    Default Re: victor ortiz wins, but is he back?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    his promoter bragged that he's the next big thing before the maidana fight then bam
    he wasn't ready for that fight, but even there he showed he has the tools to live up to what he's being billed to be, just isn't quite there yet and needs some work
    wish he/they could have pulled out from that fight if he wasn't ready

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    Default Re: victor ortiz wins, but is he back?

    I think Ortiz will be a force in the welters and junior middleweight. El Terrible is right they should take time building up Vic. Speed, power and skill is definitely there!
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